Album Review

Score 10
Written by Chris McDonald
Published on 4/15/2008
Wow. Just...wow.

Everyone else can pretty much give up right now. With Hornets of the Pogrom, the infamous Arghoslent have outstripped many of their peers to such a degree that it's almost unfair. Anyone who’s heard these guys’ prior two masterpieces, 1998’s Galloping Through The Battle Ruins and 2002’s Incorrigible Bigotry, already knows this band is capable of delivering some of the best death metal out there. But on Hornets of the Pogrom, Arghoslent step it up to a whole different level entirely, and I can honestly say that I’m floored by the results. If any album was ever worth a six year wait, this one is.

In those six years, no major changes have been made to the bluesy, melodic death metal formula that has given Arghoslent their trademark sound. Rather, that formula has been refined, polished, and perfected to a whole different level of cohesion and energy. I say melodic death metal, but we're not talking about the twin-guitar melodrama characteristic of the Gothenburg movement; these are expertly crafted, addictingly catchy melodies that positively glow with the glory of epic, old-school heavy metal. In fact, Hornets of the Pogrom contains more melody than either of the first two albums, but it's all so beautifully written that I doubt anyone will be clamoring for more “brutal riffs.”

Speaking of brutal, Genocider’s vocals are more guttural, well-timed, and intelligible than anything we've heard from this band vox-wise, adding even more to the catchiness of the album’s choruses (such as the fantastic opener “In Coffles They Were Led”). And the drumming is a giant middle-finger in the face of all the never-changing, over-bearing “technicality” that has been plaguing the death metal scene over the last few years. Dynamic, inventive, and always sensitive to what the other instruments are doing, this is one of my favorite drum performances on a modern death metal album. The blast beats are old-school, the double-kicks are thunderous, and this guy knows how to groove--a trait absent in most of today’s blastaholics.

But, like all their releases in the past, it’s the riffs and transitions that really elevate this album to legendary proportions. If you know Arghoslent then you are already well-aware of their prestigious riffing talent, but the material here is way beyond anything the outfit has written in the past. When viewed as a whole, every song on Hornets of the Pogrom is a methodical clinic in no-bullshit, quality songwriting. If there was one minor complaint I had with Incorrigible Bigogtry, it was that some of the transitions were a little awkward considering how strong the individual riffs were (thinking of "The Purging Fires of War" and the title track specifically). It's in this area that the long period the band has had to work on these songs, and how long they’ve had to gel as a unit, pays off the most. There’s just not a riff to be found here that’s less than spectacular, and the melodic and non-melodic segments are offset to damn-near perfection.

When you really sit down and listen to the godly riff at the beginning of “Swill Of The Knaves,” the seamless transitions from pummeling odd-time death metal to heart-wrenching, almost blackened melody in “Dog and Broom,” and the catchy mid-paced groove of "The Grenadier," its hard to argue that this is some of the most passionate, well-written melodic death metal ever recorded. Songs like “The Nubian Archer” and “Oracle Of the Malefic Rhizome” could be on an album by themselves, and that album could still rank near the top of my year-end list. And how about the blistering, soulful guitar solos on the instrumental title-track?! I don’t remember the last time I’ve heard leads that tantalized my metal senses like the leads on that song. And these are just a scant couple of moments in a forty-plus-minute album of non-stop metal supremacy (no pun intended) from a band who's become seriously formidable in their raw songwriting talent. 

This is just great heavy metal music in every sense. You have every right to hate Arghoslent because of their racist ideology, and I completely understand those who do. But at the same time, I can't help but pity the fool who denies themselves the sheer joy of listening to this album on that basis alone. On a technical level (musicianship, production) Hornets of the Pogrom is without flaw. On a compositional level, it's not flawless, but it's about as close as any album I’ve come across. After hearing a work of this caliber, which makes this year’s big-time releases by more modern, technical bands like Origin, Hate Eternal, and Arsis sound tepid and sterile by comparison (here comes the hate mail), its become clear that Arghoslent is easily one of the best projects active in the current extreme metal scene; in my opinion, the best. Hornets of the Pogrom is a masterpiece that deserves nothing less than a perfect score, and to be remembered as a crowing achievement in melodic death metal in years to come. 



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Anonymous | posted on 9/2011 | Reply
i love how this band makes all the wimps cry about how their vaginas hurt. racism is fun.
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Anonymous | posted on 1/2011 | Reply
If you have to hear this album then Steal it. Paying any money for it is supporting racists. Steal it Steal it Steal it enjoy the riffs but don't let any of your hard earned cash line the pockets of these hate mongers. Did I say Steal it
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Anonymous | posted on 1/2011 | Reply
Buying this album does make you racist by association. In buying such an album you are actively supporting a racist group and therefore enabling them to spread more racism. Listen to what you will. But always think of the direct consequences of your actions.
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TheKnife | posted on 10/2010 | Reply
I thoroughly enjoy this album, but cannot justify a 10. The songwriting is top notch, and the musicmanship is sweet, but the production is not good. If this album had a Rutan production, or someone like that, I would probably never be able to stop listening to it. 10 on all levels, except production value.
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DeathMetalJesus | posted on 8/2009 | Reply
I really enjoy their music, and really don't care what they are singing about. That is not to say I agree with it - but it's not gonna stop me listening.
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BEZOAR | posted on 12/2008 | Reply
This album is fucking incredible. Pure genius. It's even more genius for getting everyone so fucking worked up about it. I honestly could give a fuck less what they're singing about. When the riffs are this good, I just don't care. Does that make me racist? No. Racism is ignorance in its highest form. That being said, this kicks the crap out of anything else this year.
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rid | posted on 11/2008 | Reply
awesome.
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number9 | posted on 11/2008 | Reply
I'm not a racist by the way, I don't pay much attention to lyrics, regardless of which band I listen too. The music is awesome
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number9 | posted on 11/2008 | Reply
Just got this album and think its amazing.
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Munnin | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
Most offensive ideologies found in metal are mostly a joke or for the sake of shock value only. These guys are real racist fucktards, that's the difference.
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Bystander | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
It's absolutely hilarious to me that out of all of the twisted and offensive ideologies found in metal, all of the misanthropic, misogynistic, anit-religious, overly-religious, hateful, violent, horrible sentiments expressed, the one that really gets some of these guys worked up is racism. I would never have guessed that would be the case, but it is still comical.
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Julian | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
Just ordered TWO copies.
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TheSlayerM  | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
Yup. No financial support for this one from me.
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QJAK | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
Found this in the "Hate Mail" section of the band's website. It's good for a laugh or two: “As being conveyed by their musical expression and confirmed by their lyrics and various statements on interviews, Arghoslent's creation attempts to deliver an embodiment of the raw, eroding feeling of constant war and battle. Their manifesto is tinged by obvious proud and nationalistic motives, notably bordering the realms of Fascism and racism. Unfortunately, it seems that the implementation of their stout vision fails to reach a thoroughly satisfying completion, due to several obstacles the band has to face, mostly stemming from their somehow limited compositional, instrumental and creative skills. The spinal chord of Arghoslent's music is constructed mostly of elements of basic, traditional thrash metal riffs, rather folky, primitively melodic movements, and old-fashioned harmonized two-note-chord based death metal phrases. All of these are arranged in a way that is exceedingly one-dimensional. Not only that a successful synthesis of the different currents is never achieved; it sounds as if the unison had never been stated as an actual goal of Arghoslent's creation. That is besides, perhaps, a rather lame aspiration of creating a general epic feel within each of the band's different pieces. Alas, the result might sound epic indeed, but on the most banal and foreseen side of the attribute. The story telling abilities as shown on the output of Arghoslent is an apparition of bluntness and cliché. The only times the band manages to actually interest the listener is in singular, isolated glimpses of semi-creative ideas. These good elements (for example, a nice use of overtones or unique contrapunct twin-guitar melody) are usually not well embedded within the overall quite dull pieces (which, rhythmically and melodically, present an irritating, exaggerated ideal similarity throughout), and comprise no more than transient, scarce sparks of innovation, amplified mostly by the vast fields of predictable boredom. Still, one who is an avid fan of the traditional melodic thrashy death genre, especially one who enjoys such releases and willing to pay the price of repetitiveness, will probably find the album mildly entertaining, mostly due to a certain quality that is still apparent in some of the melodies, raising from the typical just-below-average general performance to a slightly higher level. However, such a person would also have to keep in mind the extremely limited instrumental abilities of the band members, which seemingly dictate and affect, not to say actually define, the contents and level of their compositions. This notion is most notable on the guitar work, which seems to totter on the brink of its restricted ability, only barely avoiding the painful dive into the gaping abyss of sheer embarrassment. In conclusion, Arghoslent do prove the intention of aiming and channeling their creative energies towards the expression of defined, substantial philosophical and ideological views, which is a great starting point. Unfortunately, that promising initial stand of theirs isn't a strong enough stepping stone to compensate for their below mediocre metal performance.” From Maelstrom Laurent Martini hansofthepants@hotmail.com
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QJAK | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
Racists have every right to make art that reflects their views. We, the public, have the right to purchase whatever art we enjoy for whatever reason. That said, you could tell me that the musicianship on this album outshines the finest of Led Zepplin, Rush, Death, Slayer, and Dream Theater while simultaneously being more brutal the latest Hate Eternal and Origin records and I would have no interest in purchasing a copy. After viewing their website.... these guys are f_cking ignorant!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And now matter how much musical talent they might possess, I can't fathom how any thinking person would financially support such ignorance.
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Reverend Campbell  | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
Insensitive bastard, right here. *raises hand*
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Munnin | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
Arghoslent are a bunch of racist fucktards who don't deserve to live. The fact they make passable music doesn't compensate that fact in any way and IMO, anyone who does support their music is either a chickenshit closet racist or an insensitive bastard.
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Randy | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
But, good job on getting the front page of their web page, chris. I personally dont listen to them, but good job.
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Randy | posted on 10/2008 | Reply
Honestly, now that Amon Amarth have reared their head yet again, I think the "Best Active Band" tag has been removed from Arghoslent.
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ash | posted on 7/2008 | Reply
"You have every right to hate Arghoslent because of their racist ideology, but I pity the fool who denies themselves the sheer joy of listening to this album on that basis" How can a person esp a metalhead who is not of caucasian race like myself get joy out of this? "Marooned at Sierra Leone Galleons prepared for the ride loaded with the nation's raw source of labor With not a courtesan in the swarthy bunch So intolerably loathsome was the stench of the kidnapped that the air was unfit for respiration The chained turned delirious from the weight of their fate Their brutish tempers curbed By ten to twenty lashes The pain made them abate their Courage and beliefs In Coffles They Were Led" Racist views don't belong anywhere especially in music that is supposed to help break down these kind of silly barriers. I'll gladly pass. Fuck that
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Mr.Bojangles | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
recent death metal albums that can compare with Hornets of The Pogrom in terms of greatness (in the last 5 years): !T.O.O.H.! - Pod Vladou Bice !T.O.O.H.! - Rad A Trest Dead Congregation - Graves of The Archangels Gorod - Leading Vision Hail of Bullets - ...Of Frost And War Hour of Penance - The Vile Conception Immolation - Shadows In The Light Kronos - Colossal Titan Strife Necros Christos - Triune Impurity Rites Quo Vadis - Defiant Imagination Repugnant - Epitome of Darkness not bad company at all
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
@Wolf in the throne room (again) Thanks for the response. If we're talking about a band's whole discography than I'd be inclined to agree with you, as I fucking love the early albums by Crytopsy, Morbid Angel, Decapitated, ect. However, when I say "active in metal today" that implies that the merits of the band are based on their most current album. On that note, I thought the most recent albums by the bands you mentioned fucking honked (with the exception of Martyr), but thats obviously just a matter of taste. Sure, None So Vile and Winds of Creation are way better than Hornets, but those albums are in the past--the statement I made was meant to reflect the work that the bands are making RIGHT NOW, and none of the ones you mentioned compare to Arghoslent IMO. Hell, Morbid Angel's last album was one of the worst I've heard in this decade.
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The Great Cretaceous Bob | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
If we're going to keep talking about death metal bands, I'm just gonna run in here and yell HYPOCRISY and then scoot the hell back out.
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Mr.Bojangles | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
there is no doubt in my mind that the people who say Arghoslent arent a great band only say that because of their beliefs. to say that this cd isnt catchy as hell and that the musicianship isnt top notch = denial. you dont have to like what they sing about. but atleast respect them for the fact that very few bands can hang with them as far as riffing and songwriting goes. if i had to grade this cd, id say its a 5.5 / 6 / 6. only reason it isnt perfect is because they already released a perfect cd in Incorrigble Bigotry
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wolf in the throne room | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
Chris, Morbid Angel Cryptopsy - I find 'Blasphemy to be one of catchiest death metal albums that I've ever heard. Behemoth - I mean come on. Gojira - there's an upcoming band that people ought to be more excited about. Decapitated Martyr - Warp Zone shits all over 'Hornets for catchy songwriting and, dare I say it, for melody too.
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sauron | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
I think Amon Amarth are overrated as well, but i'm not going to call them un-listenable. Not a big fan of Swedish melodeath either, unless its At the Gates or Carcass.
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Sweeney | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
@ Ian DB I disagree with what you say, sir, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Amon Amarth is one of the most legit MDM bands around.
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Ian DB | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
what's that supposed to be, a list of the shittiest, most one-dimensional death metal bands you could think of? (early suffocation and cryptopsy excluded, of course).
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Ciprian | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
Don't forget SUFFOCATION,DEEDS OF FLESH ,KATAKLYSM,CRYPTOPSY or KRISIUN.
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Reason's Voice | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
HA! oh snap
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Ian DB | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
anyone who thinks amon amarth are listenable should grow a pair of ears.
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Reason's Voice | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
Dismember and Amon Amarth. Melodic. Superior.
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Psychotic Walt | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
Hold up now. Melody doesn't belong in death metal? Excuse me? What about Death? Demigod? Gorod? Hell, even early Morbid Angel and Obituary are melodically driven, and Immolation utilize melody in almost every song they play, Here in After included. Your statement doesn't quite hold its water.
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Anxiety Hangover | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
Lets just talk about the better death metal bands active right now, because I can think of numerous ones. Immolation (the band that released Here In After and Close to a World Below is second to none), Godless (the South American one, for anyone that hasn't heard their EP on Blood Harvest, you're missing some of the heaviest occult death metal out there, ferocious, mean and evil as hell), Dead Congregation, Grave, Hour of Penance, Gorefest (Rise to Ruin was a beast), Funebrarum (the new album is going to be a killer), Hail of Bullets, Stormcrow (the US "warcrust" band that grinds like early Bolt Thrower), Necros Christos, Slugathor, Incantation, and the list goes on. And that's just the death metal bands. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Melody doesn't belong in death metal (unless you're Carcass and the album is Heartwork, but even that was pushing it). Death metal is about ugliness and evilness, extremity and intensity, heaviness and aggressiveness; Arghoslent fails on almost all counts. You can make all the claims you want, but it doesn't change the general weakness of melodic death metal and specific weakness of Arghoslent.
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FollowChrist | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
Becoming The Archetype and The Showdown are the best metal out there now.
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
@Wolf in the throne room Then let's hear 'em. No offense to that post or Mr. Wolf, but everyone seems to be decrying my "best active band" claim, without offering any alternatives of their own. Its easy to say "That statement is bullshit" and stop right there, but I tend to listen to criticism like that much more closely when a legitimate argument is tossed back my way. For example, the lasher below me actually dropped some bands of his own--I disagree with his claims, but he made an actual response to my statement and that's cool.
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Ciprian | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
This album is good but the latest Hour of Penance ,Hate Eternal,The Monolith Deathcult,Belphegor,Origin,Decrepit Birth,,Deicide,Fractured Insanity to name a few are much better.Saying that Arghoslent is the best band active is so wrong.I think there are so many active bands better than Arghoslent.I don't support racism,fascism,satanism,brutality but these things can be found in death metal and shouldn't stop us to listen to (buy) good albums .What can we say about Deicide early albums,Profanatica or Brodequin etc.? If this album is about USA history is ok( i'm not american) if it is about racism isn't good,but I don.t read the lyrics I just lsten to the music.
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wolf in the throne room | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
Interesting. This is good perhaps even great, but perfect (or 'flawless' as you put it, Chris) is too much of a compliment. I can think of a few death metal albums that are far catchier and more melodic than the material here. The lyrics are certainly arcane to go over the heads of most kids who get their hands on this. And I'll probably never be able to catch them live - what with me being a 'darkie' and all. Good stuff all the same.
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Devin | posted on 5/2008 | Reply
So, I finally got around to downloading this album last night just to see if all this hype was even warranted... And, to be honest, I think it's fucking criminal that it received a 6/6/6. The songwriting is painfully generic -- boilerplate melodic death metal. The vocals are awful. The musicianship is average at best. The production is FAR from perfect. I'm honestly convinced the only reason people are claiming to like this band is to be controversial, and that's just sad. There are so many great bands and so many great albums out there, and we're wasting our time on this generic bullshit? Terrible.
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Iron Maiden | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
That's not metal. That's plain fucking stupid.
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discobobbins | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Volatility changes with the times. My mother wouldn't bat an eye if she heard the word cunt on CNN. 10 years ago? Totally different story. This is what metal is about people. Headbanging with 2 middle fingers in the air while driving 50 mph over the limit and drunk.
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Compeller | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
How hip it is to cum about this band. It's great but to call them the best band active today is just indie. Stop it, you. Silly boy. I don't think any other metal band has as big of an indie girl following as these guys.
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Loxodont | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I was skeptical at first--the album not the review--because the raw production values and guttural vocals did not seem to be mixed properly during the first few minutes of the album; however, I realized I did not really know what was to come, as well as what I had just missed. Simply put, the rugged production adds a trVe metal vibe that goes perfectly with the unapologetic melody. This album goes all out in every respect, whether it is the rhythm section splitting the most melodic thrashy riffs into bizarre sequences of madness, or the leads that simply pull away from the rhythmic gallop below and add something that has been missing from melodic death metal for over a decade. Not since "SLAUGHTER OF THE SOUL" have I heard such perfectly cultivated melodic death riffs, and not since "THE JESTER RACE" have I heard leads that overwhelm like the leads found on "Hornets of the Pogrom." Think of December Flower on "The Jester Race" and you may have an idea of the impact the leads have on each track, and not the style of solo--Arghoslent is much too blusey--but the way they tear you away from all other elements of the tracks. This is a great album from start to finish. It is SERIOUS. The blusey playing adds a great dimension to the band's sound, giving it a fresh, yet nostalgic flair that I have never before heard used in the present combination. Definately blows away the new Arsis. I wouldn't compare these guys to Origin or Hate Eternal, for those bands are entirely different in focus and genre, but as for melodic death metal there is nothing closer to the second coming than ARGHOSLENT "Hornets of the Pogrom" and it may even be the second coming, who know? The album came out only a short while ago! Get this shit now bitches!!!
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dougwhatyoudidisrape | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Arghoslent's new album. Listening to it. Is it alright to?
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Reason's Voice | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
... still a pretty good album, though, bye the way.
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Reason's Voice | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
... and still it continues. Did I see someone trying to equate satanism with racism. One claims idealogical weakness and inferiority, while the other claims genetic weakness and inferiority. Big difference. And as far as murder/gore themes go, they're generally equal opportunity . There's something to hate about portions of every race, but those notions are based on cultural issues. Hatred directed towards certain beliefs, ideas, and/or cultural practices, while also potentially harmful, still allows for all people to start off with generally the same biological tools. Racism does not. It holds certain groups as less than human with no actual basis, and that is why it's worse.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
By the way, how did you know about the Ultra-Mega Destroy All the Gay Niggers Machine 3000? We've had an agent on the inside of the Arghoslent organization for eight years and took him six of those years to discover the U.M.D.A.G.N.M. 3000.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I don't know. Forever, I guess. Thanks for throwing your whining on the pile, though.
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Shockwave | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
How much more do you people want to whine about this? How many of you own a cd made by christains? When you bought that one, you supported the catholic church, thus their view on condoms, or better said, not using condoms, which contributes widely to the spread of aids especially in 3th world countries. How many of you own a cd from a band that like to burn down churches? Damn, you just bought them several matches! My point is, those things are not supported by buying some cd's, it's feuled by narrow idea's, conviction, blind hate. They'll do it anyway. And eventually, what do they want to do with your money?? Build the 'ultra mega destroy all the gay niggers machine 3000'? Great cd by the way.
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Zythifer | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
That's funny you mention gay sex positions, as it's being rumored that Arghoslent's new vocalist is T Mortigan of Octagan, a sexual fetish (including homosexuality) oriented band
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Yes. Gay sex positions, that would be awesome. But not the actual gay sex acts, just the positions. I couldn't handle gay sex act shit.
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sauron | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
How many bands that have murder in their lyrics commit murder? How many bands that have racism in their lyrics racist? The latter far outweighs the former. I agree with that, but you misunderstood my post, it is illogical that people would complain about the lyrics and ideology of this band when they listen to lyrics about killing, torturing and satanic sacrifice.
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myblacklab'nigga' | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
i got this yesterday and have listed to it about 5 times, good music. i cant hear any racist lyrics...becuse there growling the whole fucken time. anyways, i dont care if they sing about racist shit. so much satanic/gore clones out there its kind of a breath of freash air. i think it be great if someone put a deathmetal band together and they could sing about gay sex positions...remember its about the music cause you cant understand what the fuck thier singing er growling anyways
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Iron Maiden | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I don't give a fuck.
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beefjerky | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
after reading posts on this lash I'm going to start my own racist band. Seems like the only way a guy with below average skill can attain such acclaim in the metal underground. I'm indian though. so I'll just bag on the white folk. and play to a bunch of white folk. I would need other indian bandmates though. anyways.. didn't really find anything groundbreaking with this album.
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Jason Jordan | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I think this is a great album. Much better than Incorrigible Bigotry.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@gap Dude, have you been sniffing glue?
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gap | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Butcher: Atheists... Well I believe in metal, I believe in the sanctity of love, I belieive in the bass guitar and a ex lover that broke my heart. Wow sounds much more interesting then the ole testament. Honestly life is much more interesting then that bullshit.
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Reason's Voice | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
C'mon you guys, still?
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lee | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
If you like traditional generic DM vocals I would agree with you, I'm more into the raspy non cookie monster barking stuff.
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@lee I actually like the vocals here better than Incorrigible Bigotry. More bite, more pronounced, and catchier IMO.
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gap | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Metal is a moment. Racism seems like a horrible thought. I have not listened to this album but look forward to it as a result of a myspace preview of a previous and a love of death metal. It is curious however that in death metal some ethics become apparent. Now is it a historically valid version. Is it Angel of Death. Cannibal Corpse can get away with shit and be banned from Australia. Does this band promote a fascist agenda. Well yes. I think it is sad, but I like the freedom of speech that they purvey. I think they are rather nasty and deluded.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@Bystander *sigh* Atheism is not a religion for about 300 different reasons that this site has neither the space nor the purpose to discuss. If you really want a reasoned argument, here is a link to an article explaining why it is not. It's the first one I found, but if you want more just google "atheism as religion", you'll find more than you'll be able to read in one day. http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/ath/blathm_rel_religion.htm Let's just say that I never put on my atheist robes and prance about, supplicating myself during my atheist rituals. If atheism is a religion, is not believing in Santa Claus also a religion? As far as the right and wrong thing goes; yes, there are right and wrong positions on many things. That's why we have laws. That's not to say that just because something is a law it is right, but social living, even on the smallest scale, requires agreement among individuals on certain conventions designed to promote moral imperatives and establish peaceful societies.
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lee | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Interesting, I think the opposite that it is old school extreme Heavy Metal that brings back the riffs and what made that style great to begin with. The fact that it isn't perfect is what makes it so good. Death Metal is a pretty dead genre these days esp with all the tech and cross over stuff. It isn't as good as Incorrigible Bigotry but I think most of that is the vocals. I don't like Death Metal so the fact I like these guys might mean something. The remind of Melodic Death Metal like the Chasm, Dissection and others before them when it wasn't stale and generic.
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erikt@metalreview | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I was going to to a blog at teethofthedivine.com (formerly digitalmetal). No review yet-we didnt get the cd. The racisit themes is simply window dressing for an average dm album IMO.
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lee | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Where do you blog at ET? I was going to ask your opinion on this....Did you review it at your other site? I still think it is great, but after repeated listens the vocals are weak compared to IB
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erikt@metalreview | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I heard this last night-no disrespect to Chris, this is a pretty average album regardless of lyrics. That other stuff has been discussed to death, so no need to rehash it, i'll be doing a blog on it later
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xiweinx | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@Zaibach You've got a seriously big point there. Then again, The Monolith Deathcult are from Holland, near Belgium. So they are sure to kick some ass. As does Textures, Aborted and 534 other bands from this part of the world. The first song on this album made me think of fairyland-tunes. Actually quite funny music.
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Zaibach | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I don't get all the fuzz around this band and this album. Imo, the new The Monolith Deathcult album obliterate this album to pieces.
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Warhammer Battle Master | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I say throw out the lyrics sheet and rock the fuck out. Not like you can understand the fucker anyway.
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Bystander | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Well, we're getting pretty far off-topic here, but I just had to clear up another misunderstanding... Butcher, you do realize that rabid atheism/humanism is itself a religion, right? It is laughable that the worldview which causes you to "hate religious fucks" and declaim that "there is a right and wrong on this issue" doesn't strike you as exclusive or absolutist. I'm guessing you haven't thought this through as well as you think you have.
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Zythifer | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
if Don Black could write riffs as catchy as those in Swill of the Knaves, I'd happily frame his picture on my wall
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kittentaser | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
controversy... hmm. I dont like racist idealogy....But if this album is really that good... I may have to get it.
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Zythifer | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
It falls into the extreme end of "survival of the fittest", which is a process advocated by the natural order of the things. Plus, considering how sheepish people tend to collectively be, if I weren't a more peaceful person I'd be inclined to agree with the practices of men like Hitler and Mussolini.
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Fatal_88 | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Daaamn are we still talking about this shit ????????? Fuck .... you dont like the band or their beliefs or whetever then dont buy the goddamn album, its as simple as that.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Also, indoctrination is the same tool used by fascists, racists, etc. I don't excuse overzealous religious parents or their unthinking spawn for perpetuating stupidity.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@Zythifer Academic viewpoints?! What academic viewpoints are we forgetting? Quelling rational dialogue is fascism's raison d'etre! I don't understand what you're thinking. Here are a couple of definitions of fascism, please point out the redeeming academic viewpoints of fascism. 1)(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. 2)Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.
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Zythifer | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Also, in response to Butcher's comment, I'd argue that religion is not a choice for a great many people. The thing that primarily keeps organized religion running is the indoctrination of children.
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Zythifer | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
First of all, I'm glad you guys reviewed this album. I'd assumed you would never touch this band due to the controversy, but you proved me wrong. On that note, metal has always, ideally, been involved in some form of resistance, and political correctness has ultimately always led to stagnation. Regardless as to where you lie on the spectrum of racialism, there's no denying that multiCULTuralism has become a part of the current zeitgeist (refer to Penn & Teller's BULLSHIT! episode about college for some good examples of this), and these guys are one of the few groups unafraid to stand up for their side of the argument. Now, I don't agree with their beliefs, either. However, they still have their story to tell, and do present it in an intelligent manner. Those of you who fervently deny the academic validity of the viewpoints held by fascists and national socialists, instead choosing to continually quell rational dialogue by resorting to semantic thuggery have become none other than that which you hate.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Something people need to keep in mind is that religion is a choice, race is not. That is key. I hate religious fucks because they CHOOSE to align themselves with a fundamentalist, absolutist, exclusive ideology - almost identical in nature to the philosophies of white supremecists, right-wing republicans and national socialists. Equating racism with a distaste for religion is a fatal logical fallacy.
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scintilla | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
This is a great debate frankly! This issue has a lot of energy because its generally not discussed openly. Look at the presidential debates! They barely want to discuss gender or race at all! Its a heated issue, let it rip...
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Iron Maiden | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
"So why is racism looked down upon when compared to satan worshipping and intense accounts of murder sprees? In my opinion racism is still very real to us, not enough time has passed since the holocaust or segregation for people to begin considering racism extreme "trendy" lyrical material(not to mention school these days talks ALOT about the holocaust). Which is why it sickens many that bands release lyrics that are blatantly racist against blacks. What i'm saying is that racism, anti-christian sentiments and gloryifying murder are all just about as morally wrong and racism just happens to be in the spotlight at the moment. Think about it for yourselves, your "morality" is terribly flawed." False. Your lash is flawed. How many bands that have murder in their lyrics commit murder? How many bands that have racism in their lyrics racist? The latter far outweighs the former. Shit, Bob was right about that one too. Fuck everybody.
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Iron Maiden | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
This is the best group of lashes I have ever seen. You fucking people have me laughing my ass off. I hate to say it (shoot me now) but Bob is right. No matter how much McDonald and other fans jerk-off to this album, the band will never reach anywhere near mainstream status so who the fuck is worried about these guys being racist?
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sauron | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
So why is racism looked down upon when compared to satan worshipping and intense accounts of murder sprees? In my opinion racism is still very real to us, not enough time has passed since the holocaust or segregation for people to begin considering racism extreme "trendy" lyrical material(not to mention school these days talks ALOT about the holocaust). Which is why it sickens many that bands release lyrics that are blatantly racist against blacks. What i'm saying is that racism, anti-christian sentiments and gloryifying murder are all just about as morally wrong and racism just happens to be in the spotlight at the moment. Think about it for yourselves, your "morality" is terribly flawed.
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Reason's Voice | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Wow, you guys are still at it, huh? This album must be settin some kind of lash record. It's all I've seen on here for days.
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JB | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
My question is, are they talking about racism in a way that shows how fucked up it is or are they condoning it? Is it kinda like the hell Slayer caught over Angel of Death? Like, this is what happened, this is reality? Like I said, I can totally understand both sides of this. I wouldn't think any less of someone if they rocked out to it. But my question is this...if Argholsent were a group of gay men talking in graphic detail about suckin cock and fuckin other dudes in the ass, but the music was just amazing, would you be so apt as to "air-guitar like a motherfucker to it?" Would you comfortably sing along? I'm not a homophobe, but I couldn't do that comfortably. I'm just sayin everyone has their limits. I also couldn't help but think of how people like Mike Smith from Suffocation or the guys in God Forbid would feel about these guys. It would be interesting to hear their thoughts.
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jacksonlefteye | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
"Then again, i'm from Belgium. I'm used to better things." oh FUCK OFF this album beats you into the ground with an insanely huge hammer made from awesome and win, the band doesn't care what anyone thinks, even their fans...so considering how long they and Grand Belial's Key have been around, how many recordings they've released, you idiots really need to try harder if you wanna blackball them from the metal community
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Sorry, last lash was directed at Bystander, not Bojangles.
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xiweinx | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
As said somewhere down here, i went on and listened to this album, without prejudice. It's good, but not worthy of a 666. Then again, i'm from Belgium. I'm used to better things. For the moment, i'm having a blast listening to the new PHARAOH album. Way better, in my opinion.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Bojangles Yeah, I picked up on the semantics of the original statement. I also said, if not me, then someone just like me. The point being that anyone that shares my viewpoint would be of the type Mr. Penis would like to see thrown into an oven (points for incorporating a Nazi-themed death!), and if he actually values action over debate, the way he seems to, then there are plenty of people out there to take him up on his offer.
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The Metal Mallet | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@Munnin I really appreciate you calling me a racist. Just because I own one album by a band that writes music that has a racist viewpoint makes me a racist that is hiding in the closet. Makes perfect sense. Shouldn't I be championed then for listening to music that has vegans in it (Heaven Shall Burn) or openly homosexual members in it (Judas Priest)? Have you ever seen the movie Crash? Did you like it? Well that must make you a racist then! Bout the same ideology as what you stated regarding music. Though I guess you could argue that since it's a movie it ain't real. And yes, Bob, I know I suck at arguing, this post probably does not show any improvement. Naturally I'm someone who is pretty easy going but when someone calls me a racist just because I enjoy a CD made by racists, that's just going over the line.
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Mr.Bojangles | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
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Bystander | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I haven't heard the word "queef" since 4th grade. That was terribly awesome of you, Bojangles.
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Mr.Bojangles | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
the best part of all of this is that the Arghoslent guys are in a chair somewhere with their feet propped up on the computer desk having a beer laughing at this shit. you act like you're all making a stand by not supporting them. they arent gonna make money either way. so continue feeling high and mighty about yourselves because you dont support the big bad racists. my copy is gonna come and im gonna air-guitar like a motherfucker to it. same way i have their last 2 full lengths. fuckin queefs
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Bystander | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Butcher: That was a cute rant, but I don't think it makes sense. He wasn't being a "tough guy" by saying he wants your kind to be exterminated in a huge oven, he was just pointing it out as an appealing fate. It's like the difference between saying "I hope you die" and "I'm going to kill you", see? Now, the so-called internet tough-guy act would look something like this... Come on out to a show and then maybe you'll get a shot at me. Sorry to butt in there, I just wanted to help clear up the misunderstanding.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@ Mighty Penis Eater In the ultimate display of fucktard hypocrisy, you, in one moment, criticize others for their so-called internet tough-guy act, and then, in the next, engage in the exact same behavior by listing the horrible things you would like to see happen to me. But really, what should I expect from a moron like you? You know what you should do? Go ahead and badge yourself up like all the other idiot skins and proudly display your stupidity for all to see. Come on out to a show and then maybe you'll get a shot at me. If not me, then someone like me. Yeah, we're all pussies and whiners because we're the ones actually standing up for the right thing - for something, anything - unlike limp-dicks like yourself without the balls or mental capacity to engage in critical thinking, stand on principal, or articulate ideas that are actually your own. I'm not whining, I'm telling you to go eat a pile of human shit.
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Mr.Bojangles | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
cant wait for my copy to get here. i snagged one for like $10 on ebay. anyone know if they sell shirts or not?
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Skankslaver | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
God, I've never heard a bunch of metalheads whine so damn hard, and about some band's fucking lyrics. If it really makes you feel so bad, go jerk off someone of a different race to soothe your pain. Rappers make fun of white males on the radio all the time and no one ever bitches about that. I didn't know all the morality police listened to extreme metal. Just for that I might buy 2 or 3 copies and vomit while thinking about all these metalheads lying on the floor screaming and crying like babies.
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TxKx | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Right. That's it. What I'm going to do is buy this and ignore the fact that Arghoslent are racist. Then I won't feel guilty for buying it. I'm sure I'll like it nonetheless. I've bought albums done by artists whose opinions I don't entirely agree with before, and it doesn't grate on me. I'll also support anal retentive bands if their music is worth the money; conversely, I'll support really silly bands for the same reason. But what I am sure of is that if I get this shitting-and-pissing argument shoved onto me for a fourth frigging day, and I have to contribute to it -- I'll contribute by cutting some fingers off with a little yellow plastic knife from a toddler's kitchen play set. Oh aye, and if you don't like me because, in your view, I support idiots, then sod off and cry about it in your MySpace emo poetry you're currently planning to write. (If you can see through your emo haircut.) I don't care.
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
The riff that starts at 0:37 in "In Coffles They Were Led" actually gave me an erection. The one at 1:15 made it painful. I'm listening and listening and this stuff's not getting any less brilliant, folks. Sorry.
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LORDVADER | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Fucking Christ! I meant good God! I mean man, no wait – woman! Uh…people! This shit, sorry - poop, I mean stuff has got to stop. Geraldo Rivera called. He want’s his show back.
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Bystander | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Wow guys, you are going to have a bitch of a time buying CD's from here on out. Make sure you check the personal beliefs and conduct of every band that you give money to before purchasing... you'd hate to be "supporting" somebody that does or thinks naughty things. Comical. I think the "racist cause" thing that has come up recently is hilarious. Do you really picture these guys sitting around waiting for enough money to trickle in from their albums--85 cents at a time, from each purchase--so that they can buy a bomb big enough to blow up Harlem? Musically, sounded okay except for the vocals (kinda boring).
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Devin | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Did the CD come with a free swastika armband? How about a mini-noose so you can lynch your black G.I. Joe actions figures during playtime? Ugh. This band will never see a cent of my money. I fully encourage anyone and everyone interested in hearing this album to steal it. If you like their music but don't want to support their worldview, keep your money out of their pockets.
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TeraPatrickEatsAHotdog | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
"They stripped me naked had me lift my ballsack up so they could check underneath it...." haha, Just got Incorrigible Bigotry in the mail. Hoping its killer.
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zach  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Jeezus Christ kids, are we STILL arguing over this band?! Wash out the sand you buncha vaginas. Don't forget to bring a towel.
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Munnin | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@ Metal Mallet: When you say that buying this album "doesn't mean you're supporting racists, it means you're supporting a band that writes music that sounds good.", you're absolutely wrong. You're giving money to racists, and that's supporting, isn't it?
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Munnin | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Never heard the band before, and won't hear it. I don't waste my time with racist metal, it's as simple as that. And frankly, the fact that assholes like this use my beloved genre as a vehicle for spreading hate pisses me off a lot. To me the "music's great, never mind the ideology" rationale is nothing more than disguised racism, and people who adhere to this line of thinking are in fact chickenshit racists, not manly enough to admit their prejudice.
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Razorhog | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I know what you meant, Bob, and totally agree.
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The Great Cretaceous Bob | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Fuck, I meant "good music", that sentence's point just got fucked all up. Fuck me.
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The Great Cretaceous Bob | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Yes, Mallet, the money you pay for this album floats around in a magical "good money" fund that doesn't help racists at all. A better point would be that these motherfuckers are so unknown any money you give them won't do anything to further any sort of racist cause, except for more hateful music, which is fine. I really don't see the reason in arguing this out. No one's mind will change. Either you're okay with the lyrics, or you aren't, nothing anyone says here will matter to you.
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ThrashBeast | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
This review sounds awesome. I'll give this a try. Man even if it's only half the "all-time greatest albums in years to come" quality it would be good.
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BEZOAR | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
lash lash lash lash. Racism lash lash lash. Look, these fuckers views ARE being supported when you buy their music, whether you like it or not. At least in their eyes. I can just see these idiots kicking back looking at all this shit and saying,"look what we did!". No one supports what they say, just what they play and I'm sure they know it. They obviously don't give a fuck either. Just a bunch of ignorant guys who can play instruments-well.
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The Metal Mallet | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Man, I wonder if people started listening to Thee Plague of Gentlemen and enjoyed them would stop if they found out that the band disbanded because the lead vocalist was arrested for being a child rapist? I don't see anyone bringing the pitchforks and torches over that. The band wrote good music and will write good music as Serpentcult now. Would buying a Thee Plague of Gentlemen CD mean I'm supporting a child rapist? No, I'd be supporting well written music in my eyes. That man is behind bars now and what little money they get would be useless. Why can't a band like Arghoslent be treated much the same way? Sure, don't support them if the music is shitty. But if you like the way the band sounds, why not support it? It doesn't mean you're supporting racists, it means you're supporting a band that writes music that sounds good.
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king | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Awesome album. The racist lyrics do not bother me that much, but I would prefer lyrics that I could relate to more.
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no life til leather | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
You know, I'm a big fan of Becoming the Archetype. My favorite album of 2007 was from Benighted. If the band is from Nazi Germany and I can relate to the melody I ignore the lyrics. What I do with my free time and beliefs has littel to do with what I listen to and metal in general.
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elpants | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I *normally* ignore any sort of theme in lyrics of music. I love this album, it has jazzy groove to it, I love the riffs, how the vocals follow the melody, and the drumming. These boys have talent. As long as the music doesn't come out screaming profane racist words, I could not care less. They have a message and obviously feel strongly about it, I know what it is and choose to ignore it. Awesome album and worth th 6/6/6 it got.
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MINDSI1618 | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I have found that the 'heavy' or 'metalheads' are usually drugaddicts and alcoholics; why shI have found that the 'heavy' or 'metalheads' are usually drugaddicts and alcoholics; why should I be a friend of them? (...) The scene is completely saturated and with bands that don´t have anything new to offer, and nothing to do with DEATH METAL. All the scene died completely in 1994, since then it has been only a false, platic, poser entity full of people with socio-political attitudes. How can a band be calles DEATH METAL singing about social problems like poverty, unemployment. Politicians and nature? How can this be? (Arghoslent on http://www.musicextreme.com/arghoslent.htm). All I have to say is that despite my usual liberal attitude toward bands and looking at their music rather than lyrics and ideology I must simply conclude the aforementioned quote only one possible way: FUCK YOU, YOUR LYRICS AND YOUR MUSIC, Arghoslent. I don't really care how good their music supposedly is (I heard some of their new shit online- nothing special). But I draw the line when you fuck with my metal brothers and sisters and this is it! Sorry, Chris.
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chud | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Just like when I found out Burzum's a Nazi, and Zyklon is the gas used to kill Jews, I have to ignore racist metal. I'm sure this album is great (although this site's giving 6/6/6 to anyone nowadays), but I'm going to have to pass on the outwardly racist metal. There's plenty of awsome melodic death that isn't racist.
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TB | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Great album
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Deke' | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Bands lke this usually don't get more than a moment of attention from me, but I checked this album out and the musc is pretty damn great, about 5/5/5 from me. As far as their message goes I could care less, being I'm half-black the irony of my enjoying their tunes suits me just fine. Normally I wouldn't spend time or $$ on a band who wouldn't thank me for buying their music, but who's the real asshole if I decide to buy and blast this stuff at high volume?
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lee | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
are you all still going on about this? Just don't fucking buy it. Leave the rest of us racist, fascist bastards alone.
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novairon | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
anyways......*ahem*....this is a good album. I wouldn't have given it 6/6/6, I find the vocals to be extremely generic and boring, but its definitely good.
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Steve P | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
So I'm just curious now, are the members of this band racist or not?
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vugelnox | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@devin My perspective is merely this. These events happened. Yes they are terrible and nobody but the most deluded among us would ever ever think to argue that. However where we differ is you believe this band actively condones these acts because of these lyrics. Yet as Psychotic Walt said then I am then fully and perfectly within my rights to believe Alex Webster actively condones brutal and disgusting violent acts of murder and torture because Cannibal Corpse writes about them in their lyrics. Where is the clear and unarguable line that can be drawn saying that racist lyrics always means the band members are active racists and gore lyrics mean band members are just simply going for shock. If I walk into a record store and grab an Arghoslent and a Cannibal Corpse album with no knowledge of either band and read the lyrics then no distinction could ever possibly be made. Now Cannibal Corpse are a little bland and mindless with their lyrics and given that there are plenty of death metal bands who go into extremely explicit and exact detail about beating, raping, torturing and murdering woman. Devourment is a good example. Read the lyrics to "Fuck Her Head Off" or "Serial Cocksucker" and tell me that they are anything but the clearest most lucid descriptions of torture, rape and murder as can be written. Surely it follows with such absolute clarity given to these lyrics that the guys in Devourment should all be locked away for 50 years apiece? Now do you see why I don't think you have a valid point at all?
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vugelnox | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@Psychotic Walt thank you, a little common sense and basic logic is always welcome
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Devin | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@ vugelnox It's not a matter of guilt -- it's a matter of MY moral position. I abhor the events that took place not because I'm guilty, but because I think they are a testament to the sort of backward thinking our society has thankfully evolved away from. This band represents to me a kind of persistent ignorance that I have no interest in whatsoever. I fully support their freedom to take their position. I'm just exercising my freedom to not support their band in any way, shape, or form. There are dozens of great bands out there, and I'd rather support those who don't identify with fascists and slavemasters -- not because I want to pretend those people didn't exist, but because I think the glorification of their actions is reprehensible at best.
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Psychotic Walt | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Alright, to clarify: This debate isn't about being left wing or right wing, it's about whether or not a band that pairs decent to excellent music (depending on your opinion) with racist ideals can be listened to without making a moral compromise. Certainly there are worse things than racism out there, and especially so in metal lyrics: Misogyny, sadism, militarism, and anything you can name are written about so frequently that they've become cliches, so it would seem that making a fuss about racism is slightly hypocritical. However the counter-argument stated is that grotesquely violent lyrics are absurd and unrealistic (i.e. if anyone actually did these things, and put them in a song they'd be arrested) whearas racism is much more likely to be genuine. The problem with this argument, though, is that it doesn't address the real issue. Whether or not an act is realistic or not doesn't make it any more or less moral; If some one is writing about forcibly sodomizing nuns with crucifixes there's no telling whether it's borne out of a sincere desire to do such a thing, or out of a need to shock. The same applies to racism, and it follows that if one of the members of Arghoslent were to commit a crime that was racially motivated they would be arrested just a quickly as if they'd commited a crime against nuns with crucifixes. The problem shouldn't be based on the specificity of the group it targets, but rather the violent nature of the acts themselves, and as such, there's no possible way to say that Arghoslent's lyrics are any worse than the majority of metal bands.
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vugelnox | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@ Chris "This is history, folks, and most Americans simply don't want to realize that this grave violation of basic human rights was enacted completely from our fine forfathers. " This completely undeniable and unarguable fact is why I simply laugh at and mock those who would whine ceaselessly about this band. Blind sweeping knee-jerk political correctness in this country today has progressed to where it would have us forget all of this because we are brought up being taught to possess an inherent sense of guilt and shame to our own history. I can not describe to you how much this history revisionist bullshit disgusts me. I take responsibility purely and ONLY for my own actions in my own lifetime and absolutely nothing more. If individuals are so guilt-ridden and shameful of history that they react to it in such a naive fashion as people do for this band then that is a character flaw within themselves that they must address. I'll have none of it.
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rock | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Writing about historal occurences is one thing: Arghoslent seem to condone (by the tone of the lyrics) all these occurences. While it's true that it's all well and good to listen and try to understand a viewpoint of someone who thinks differently, the fact that people's viewpoints can be based on fiction and simply used as an outlet for fear and ignorance despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary does not afford them a free pass. The basis of superiority due to the concentration of skin pigments is the most idiotic ideology going, as it doesn't even have the "faith-based" shield going. You might as well condone murder of people with long eyelashes.
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vugelnox | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@ devin - and likewise you can play the role of the armchair moral police to your heart's content but this band's lyrics have only even been politically incorrect at worst for the historical topics they wish to write about. Unlike you I am not laden with a heavy sense of guilt wherein I should therefore feel obligated to feign some degree of half-hearted offense to such lyrics.
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
To answer TxKx's question, yes, I certainly find Arghoslen't views on race to be ignorant and deplorable. But does that mean that I'm offended by the lyrics? Not a bit. Vugelnox hit it right on the head. People think Arghoslent write about racism, but anyone can tell from the lyrics on Hornets that what this band rights about is the history OF racism. Regardless of which viewpoint the members themselves sympathize with, the stories they tell in the lyrics, however unsavory and immoral they are, are not the creation of the lyricist. This is history, folks, and most Americans simply don't want to realize that this grave violation of basic human rights was enacted completely from our fine forfathers. To the people who ejoy death metal bands singing in eplicit detail about the most unimaginable acts of violence and sex imaginable but "draw the line at racism," consider this. When listening to a band like Cannibal Corpse, every lyric you read is conceived completely by the band members. The fact that its unrealistic makes it that much more despicable because it is the product of these people's imaginations and fantasies. Arghoslent are recounting actual events in human history. Now which band is more disgusting in their morals? So am I offended by bands like Cannibal Corpse? Nope, because this is metal and lyrics are lyrics. I enjoy several openly racist bands that are way more extreme in the expression of their beliefs than Arghoslent: Satanic Warmaster, Graveland, Nokturnal Mortum, ect. I'm just strong enough in my own beliefs that I can listen to these bands and enjoy them for what really matters; their music.
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Devin | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@ vugelnox -- Arghoslent are a racist, fascist band -- period. Read their website, read their interviews, read their lyrics. It's all there whether you care to admit it or not. You can make as many apologist remarks as you want in support of this band, but an apple is an apple any way you slice it. And Battlepenis, you're the kind of far-right scum I'd love to see wiped clean off the earth by your own militaristic attitude and divise bigotry. You don't think ideas can be dangerous? Sounds like you need to brush up on your history. Don't overestimate the ability of the masses to think for themselves -- the vast majority of people are ignorant sheep waiting to be hearded into step by the person with the loudest voice. Do you really want that person to be one of the idiots from Arghoslent?
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Iron Maiden | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
You guys are really up in arms about the racist thing without even thinking about why you should care. I mean, I'm not racist because I'm not stupid and is some metal band wants to be stupid then let them. Who gives a fuck? They're not getting my money. You guys should be more upset about the "best band" claim. And Penis, Rush Limbaugh called for you because he needs his cock sucked. Stop throwing around "liberal" as if it's a bad thing. After all, this country wasn't founded on Sean Hannity cornhole fuckers who drool over talk radio.
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Mighty Battlepenis | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Butcher is exactly the kind of big government, ideas are dangerous, kind of liberal scum i would love to see exterminated in a huge oven. Liberty and equality as long as everyone thinks the way you do right buddy? Get fucked.
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vugelnox | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
To this day I simply can not understand what is at all racist about this band. They choose to write about historically based subjects but because they refuse to adhere to simple politically correct topics ala Iced Earth or Iron Maiden suddenly hordes of youthful and selectively bleeding-heart idiots cry foul as if they have been personally and deeply wronged by this band. The sheer vitriol they display would make one believe that Arghoslent has been advocating murder and rape against all minorities in the most direct of language. Including listing addresses of those the band themselves wished to see harmed. Now Bruce can write about injustices against the Indians and John Schaffer can wax poetic about the battle of Gettysburg all day long but god forbid if someone were to write about the slave trade or Russian pograms because then suddenly everyone would lose their collective friggin' mind! Did these things not happen? Are the perspectives expressed by Arghoslent not much like the actual perspectives held by people who lived during those time periods? To answer no to either question would further illustrate my point. But now I see what it is. Arghoslent simply wish to write about these topics not from the bleeding-heart angle of how bad all of that was and how we should all feel very very ashamed of what people hundreds of years ago did. They write about it simply as it was during that time period. Maybe if Bruce wrote Run to the Hills from an Jacksonian viewpoint of the brutal and rightful extermination of native Americans then he'd be drummed out of town by these whining jackasses just as quickly. I mean really, it is utterly amazing how many disgustingly naive idiots listen to metal.
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Steve P | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Who knew a day would come where you could be a pussy because you don't listen to racist metal.
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Razorhog | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I agree with Butcher. Well said! I have every right to hate Arghoslent because of their racist ideology, and I do! Anyone who says the lyrics don't matter is full of shit.
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Fatal_88 | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Like Iron Maiden mentioned below.. Metal is MUSIC !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ian DB | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
you guys are fucking pussies. even pogrom from arghoslent says that he listens to bands like minor threat whose ideology he is opposed to. pull your heads out of your ass and accept the fact that there is never going to be an artist whose sociopolitical views you agree with 100%, and if there is, your views must be pretty crude and thoughtless. and yes, arghoslent is the best active metal band.
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TxKx | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Well, Metal Review really only reviews what they get sent. And songwriting has more than just lyrics in mind. Let the band and Metal Review say what they want. And all I seem to see on these lashes is arses taking the music too seriously. It's metal for God's sake. As long as the music's good, well, that's all that should matter. I'm pretty sure that Chris McDonald hates Arghoslent's racial ideology. (Do you, Chris?) I hate their ideology as well, but if the music's good, well, that's all that should matter. I don't listen to metal to discuss ideologies or political debates. I listen to it to thrash the fuck out. Stop taking metal too seriously. Bloody hell. "You have every right to hate Arghoslent because of their racist ideology, but I pity the fool who denies themselves the sheer joy of listening to this album on that basis." I second that entirely.
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Butcher | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Find a discussion of this topic here: http://community.metalreview.com/forums/t/509.aspx?PageIndex=1 There is a right and a wrong on this issue. The rationalizing that some people around here have engaged in in an effort to shield their conscience from the introspection that should come along with supporting a band like this is fucking dangerous. It's like I said in the thread, where do you draw the line? Am I then to assume that you're OK with a band of pedophiles as long as the riffs are sick enough? Child abusers? Regarding this review: it disappoints me that Metal Review even validates these fuckwits' existence by reviewing this album. It disappoints me further that Chris considers it to be a perfect album, completely free from defect despite the massive, glaring defect contained within the songwriting. My opinion of both Chris and the site have been lowered considerably.
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TomM | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I love how even if you are a Jew who could get over the lyrics, if you live in Israel you wouldn't be able to listen to it anyways b/c they don't accept orders from there (check out their website). You can say it's all about the music till you're blue in the balls, but according to Arghoslent themselves that is not the case.
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rock | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
It doesn't really command much respect from me. I can't support this band due to their views. Call me what you will, I hate the shit they talk about and me giving them my hard-earned money (or even positive word of mouth) makes me throw up a little. Sorry fellas, no musical prowess can make up for the ideology they represent.
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AlexS | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
It is a part of a Russian lexicon that deals with the attacks on the Jewish populace of Ukraine and Southern Russia in the early 20th century. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom , etc. I dig the music though. I am also suprised that a band of such caliber would not tone down their lyrics... I guess that this commands respect in some ways.
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Beak | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Woah, woah, woah, woah... Metal is music?
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Iron Maiden | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Good Christ, people. Enough with your peronal definitions of what is metal. "Hate is metal". "Metal is about deciding for yourself". What the fuck? I always thought metal was another form of fucking MUSIC. Hey, I just mowed my lawn. That's metal!
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FollowChrist | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Exactly Lordvader! Hate is Hate. And Hate is Metal.
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LORDVADER | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
These have got to be some of the best lashes I’ve see to date. This is meeeeetalllllllll you idiots, please check your vaginas at the door. Assuming most of you probably get your metal via MP3 downloads and therefore are deprived of liner notes and lyrics, I’m guessing most of y’all don’t have clue as to what you’re supporting. Great review!
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TxKx | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@ greigoroth, about his "metal is making decisions for yourself" comment: Thank you so very much for saying that. I wish more people would understand that people _are_ free to listen to what they want, and whether to give acknowledgement to lyrics or not. Anyone who doesn't like this ideology, well, you like metal, it's your decision whether to like it. I'm not opinionated. For me, I will buy this, and I don't usually note the lyrics, but the smallest thought that I'm (technically) supporting racist music by purchasing Arghoslent's albums will always stay floating in the back of my head. But that's just me.
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greigoroth | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I think the people on both sides of the debate are forgetting one critical thing: this is metal. They have the right to write whatever they want. I, as the listener, have the right to say "fuck that" and put on something else. Those of you who defend it: good on you. Those of you who decry it: good on you. Metal is about making decisions for yourself and doing what is right for yourself. Me? I took one look at the website and decided not to listen to these guys. Am I a hypocrite for listening to Vital Remains while not choosing to listen to this? No, I simply choose not to listen to racist crap, no more, no less.
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scintilla | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I agree that there is some hypocrisy with people who have no problem listening to gore/satanic/mysogynist lyrics and then hate this because of racism. Frankly, i find a lot of metal lyrics juvenile and embarrassing and feel like its a generally accepted aspect of the music that in the long run will tarnish the genre and make it seem like a joke. But the music is SOOOO gooooood.....
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rat | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Openly promoting racism is backwards and counterproductive. Like some others said, gore/satan lyrics are mostly tongue in cheek. Racism is a much more real idea and I don't want to hear someone yelling at me about how much he hates other races, even if I can't understand him. There are countless other bands and I'm sure I'm not missing anything original here so I will skip it. It has nothing to do with being self-riteous.
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JB | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I'm with some of you in that most lyrics in metal (the Satanic/Gore stuff in particular) doesn't bother me. I have plenty of Satanic/Murder worshipping stuff in my collection. To me, it's no different than watching a horror movie. It's fun to growl along to. But I gotta draw the line on the racist shit. I just can't support it no matter how good the band is. I'm not judging anyone who does listen to them, though. Such a waste if the band is that good. @Irukijandi - Hell yes, the new Zimmer's Hole album is kick ass! The Nathan Explosion intro is funny as hell. I've probably enjoyed that album more than anything I've heard so far this year.
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lee | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Some quick Points: 1. I agree with Might Battle Penis, stop being a bunch of little pussy politically correct liberals. This is extreme Metal, it is not supposed to be pleasant. 2. Rape of a Slave isn't even on this album 3. I agree with the guy who said something about not hearing much true swede death metal if you don't hear traces of the real thing here. 4. This band plays Heavy Metal the way it is supposed to be played, calling them Death Metal in reality insults hem because they are so much more then that. 5. Grow up, 99 percent of you are Middle class suburban white kids and I doubt very down with the civil rights movement and give two shits about it on a daily basis so stop getting all fucking high and mighty on us. 6. If like McDonald said, you want to be narrow minded and miss out on this, it your loss. Grow up.
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Yep. Death metal is all about being nice. Did you know that black metal was actually forged out of a deep love and appreciation for the beauty of mankind and modern society?
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TeraPatrickEatsAHotdog | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Sounds good from what I've heard, but I still prefer Diminishing Between Worlds, even in catchy songwriting. Can't call it 6/6/6 material 'till I've heard the whole thing, though. I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch and red flag this, almost made that mistake when the sissies started crying about Drudkh, and now they hold a distinct place in my catalog. I'm not championing some racist cause, and they may be idiots, but hell...why waste my breathe when I can pick out a large handful of idiots any time I take the chance to listen to the shit people say? Hell, we elected two related presidents that have accumulated about half of our nation's historical debt. I call the lot of you hypocrites.
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cooperaa | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Are you kidding? Sterile? All three of those releases blow this hunk of shit out of the water. Nothing special here... this doesn't deserve anything close to perfect scores.
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Fatal_88 | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
After listenning to some songs of this album and reading some of their lyrics.. I have to say that giving this a 666 is a joke.!! With all respect to the reviewer's opinion and beliefs, but its not as great as you made it sound. And you cant give an album a 666 review just because its a breath of fresh air for your ears.. better than Arsis and Decrepit Birth.. now fucking way !! The year is still young and I'm sure we'll see alot of new releases that are million times better than this. As for the whole racism thing about their lyrics.. its pretty clear and obvious, and its fucking ridiculous and pathetic. I dont know if they were writing these words from a historical perspective or not.. but "Rape of a Slave".. not nice man.. not nice at all !!!!! But again if the music was good.. I could probably give it a shot and in this case it doesnt interest me so there you go.
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Devin | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@ Razorhog Take one look at their website and all your questions will be answered.
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Razorhog | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
If anything, the first song seems to denounce slavery. Has the band directly come out and said they are racists? The lyrics seem to be just vague enough that I can't tell...it could go one way or the other. Only read over a couple songs though.....
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Devin | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Chris -- have you actually listened to the new Decrepit Birth album? It's anything but over-the-top in terms of technicality. Yes, it's technically accomplished, but in the same way Death's Human album was. If anything, that band focused MORE on songwriting and less on sheer technical brutality this time around. It's catchy as fuck, too -- there are riffs from that album that I haven't been able to get out of my head since I bought it. And, as an added bonus, you don't have to deal with a lyric book full of ignorant ramblings from backward-ass degenerates.
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I've actually been lucky enough to listen to four or five bands lately. Arghoslent takes the cake. ;) In all seriousness, this album is like a breath of fresh air from the current death metal scene for me. I know a lot of you guys go nuts for Arsis and Origin and Decrepit Birth and what not, but I honestly don't. I really despise all the over-the-top technical brutal bullshit. None of those bands I named in my last paragraph can write a song anywhere near as memorable as these guys.
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captain  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
this album's hyphy.
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The Great Cretaceous Bob | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
There's a large difference between racist lyrical content and gore content. Namely, it is generally accepted that gore shit, like Satanic stuff, is purely for show. How gore lyrics correspond to the band members' actual actions is easy to track, as the violent actions described in the lyrics, were they to be carried out, would eventually attract the attention of law enforcement. Its highly implausible that all of these bands with gore-related lyrics are all pulling off impeccable murders. There is no large precedent of purely showman tactics in relation to racist lyrical content, and given how much harder it is to determine whether or not the band actually believes their lyrics, it's far more likely that the band IS racist than Satanic/gore bands DO kill people. In fact, Mightybattlepenis, you specifically cite violent acts based on religious beliefs, and Satanic content has a HUGE history of just being a face for the band, the actual members not having the ideologies themselves.
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Razorhog | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Wow another 666!!! This year is crazy!
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Devin | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Anyone willing to call Arghoslent "best band active in metal today" is almost as delusional as the band itself. This review is a joke. These lashes are a joke. I won't be buying this album. At best, I'll steal it and listen to it once, as I'd prefer to give the music a fair shake, but I won't be contributing one dime to these backward fucks or their archaic ideologies. I'd suggest anyone with a conscience do the same.
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Reason's Voice | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I checked this out. These guys are apparently total idiots, but the tunes are pretty solid. In response to Iron Maiden below, LOL. Seriously, best active band? C'mon guy.
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TomM | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Dear Mightybattlepenis dude, Russian pogroms were directed against Jews. Sure, the word could be used to refer to persecution of other groups, but it doesn't (find me an example where it does), and it obviously doesn't on this album. I'm not saying people shouldn't listen to it because of the lyrical content, but I do think it's understandable that people are revolted by it.
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Iron Maiden | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
"I simply cannot call Arghoslent anything but the best band active in metal today." How many bands do you listen to....three?
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rid | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Heard this album for the first time just a couple days ago and agree completely with this review. Awesome album. Couldn't care less about whatever racist cr**.
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xiweinx | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
This actually is a challenge for the metal community. Try listening to this without prejudice. I sure as hell am going to. Concerning their message: most likely, their mothers were raped by Calypso Louie and they're having a hard time getting over it. Peace on earth and hail Ghandi!
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vugelnox | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Its amazing how people can get bent out of shape over this band for their lyrics but those same jackasses are totally fine with the extreme misogyny present on Devourment, XXX Maniak or Anal Blast albums. Can't be a self-righteous liberal fuckwad on a situational basis kiddies, your head is either always planted firmly up your ass or it isn't.
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BEZOAR | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Mighty Battlepenis(nice nick)-1 TomM-0
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Mighty Battlepenis | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I love the fat internet nerds who try to get all tough guy about racism when they just queued up a band that sings about raping and killing people based on their religious beliefs. Its cute your public school education embedded in you an unthinking revulsion towards criticism on race and ethnic tradition. Take your internet chest thumping elsewhere, you cowards wouldn't beat anyone up in person unless you had a mob behind you which makes you no better or worse than Arghoslent. Gross hypocrites, all of you.
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Mighty Battlepenis | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Actually TomM, smart guy knee jerk liberal that you are, Pogrom is a Russian word that refers to a mob formed with the intent of persecution. ??????; from ???????, Russian pronunciation: [gr?'m?it?] "to wreak havoc, to demolish violently") is a form of riot directed against a particular group, whether ethnic, religious or other, and characterized by destruction of their homes, businesses and religious centres. Pogroms are usually accompanied by physical violence against the targeted people and even murder or massacre.
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Mr.Bojangles | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
and even though the year is young, i gotta put this one at either #1 or #2 ahead or behind of the new Hour of Penance
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Mr.Bojangles | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
i was floored when i heard this about a month ago. some of the best leads ive heard in years. and the solos... who the fuck cares what they sing about? we all listen to retarded shit about defecating on zombies and fucking them. so they hate blacks. i could care less. Nokturnal Mortum hates blacks and they've written some of the best music out there. and besides, you cant understand the vocals the majority of the time. hell, if you dont want to listen to them because of the lyrics, listen to the 2 instrumentals on their last 2 albums (Incorrigible Bigotry and Hornets of The Pogrom). those alone are worth hearing. the band shreds. eat a dick if them hating blacks keeps you from listening to solid metal
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TomM | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Just so y'all know, pogrom is a term that refers to Jewish persecution. So, I think it's understandable that some people are revolted by this, as any moral person is revolted by the racism of oh, say, THE HOLOCAUST. (but of course that didn't happen, right?)
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Melodiska | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
"Ill-suited for leadership Nature bestowed her foulest pigmentation upon them much like a scar" Sit there and tell me you can read that and not think that's racist, every single song except the instrumental and The Grenadier are so reekingly racist i don't even want to touch this. It's cool to support metal, like Chris says below, but the shit they say is ridiculous, i mean... I have some racist bands, but this crosses the line for me..
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Irukandji | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
This review is more masterbatory than a shred manifesto. What utter faggotry. And Origin, Hate Eternal, and Arsis are tepid and sterile? You are a fucking retard. This IS a good record, maybe great indeed, and I don't care about the pathetic racism. But those be a bunch of hippie-bitch statements (from a drummer? it figures) that encompass this review. You actually ruined my opinion of this band. And a couple of lashers below are correct; ther's nothing blatantly racist on this album. Zimmer's Hole is probably more offensive than this, and that disc, though a comedy and simplistic musically, is pretty sweet. Arghoslent + Chris = 'Anonymous Esophagus'
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Fecal Facial | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I hope I wasn't the only one who noticed the irony in using the word "bluesy" to describe this band. The joke is on them, though. If these pussies played anywhere legitimate they'd get stomped.
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The Metal Mallet | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Looking through the lyrics for this release in particular, I honestly couldn't find anything racist in it. Perhaps there was some in "Swill of the Knaves" or "Dog and Broom" but nothing I could blatantly say "That's racist!". I do know that in interviews and such, they spout off their ideologies but I didn't really hear any of that in this album i particular. Music wise, I could care less about what they're saying when it sounds this good.
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Fatal_88 | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Racism ??? I havent listened to this band before and never read their lyrics.. but racism against what ?? I thought this is just another Satanic based death metal band.. and I never gave a fuck about lyrics when it comes to extreme metal.. I only care about the music and the lyrical content always comes as a secondary thing.
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Mark | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
LOL, I laugh at the postings because I'm filipino, yet, I've been listening to Bound For Glory, Grand Belial's Key, Nokturnal Mortum, Graveland, etc., etc. for years and their racism hasn't stopped me from loving their music. It sucks that I can't quite sing along or go to a show, but a lot of these white power bands are true to their craft. With that being said, saying that Arghoslent put out a better album this year than Arsis's masterpiece is just metal sacrilege. :)
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Beak | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
@BEZOAR: Agreed. I'll gladly blare a song about skull-fucking a corpse, but this kind of music is slightly different. I downloaded "Swill of the Knaves" and I've got to say, that's some fine metal.
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BEZOAR | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I have to listen to these guys because of the review, but I honestly don't know if I could support such ignorance. Now are they for real or is it just a shtick? I mean, I'm all for ripping babies out of wombs in order to eat them and sacrificing dogs and cats to satan (just kidding), but racism is pretty difficult to stomach even if the music kicks ass. Then again, if this is the absolute best thing I've ever heard, I may be willing to forgive them (being the devoted Christian I am-ahem).
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FollowChrist | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Considering how ridiculous some of the lyrics in Death Metal bands music I must laugh at how many buttholes pucker up from this bands lyrics.
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
But let's not descend into another epic debate regarding Arghoslent's morals, shall we? Plenty about that in the forums.
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I find it kind of ironic that a band of such proportions limits their own appeal so drastically (and that's saying a lot for metal) by picking lyrical themes so controversial. These guys aren't picketing in front of the Civil Rights museum or planning assassinations of NBA players. They are making great metal. That's what you're supporting.
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zach  | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I may listen to murderous bastards like Varg and Jon Nodviedt, but at least their music isn't racist or glorifying of their acts (at least not the Burzum in english, haven't really checked the rest). These guys... who knows, I'll probably steal it off the internet and feel good about it.
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Anxiety Hangover | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
To say this doesn't sound like Swedish melodic death metal makes one assume you haven't heard much Swedish melodic death metal. Because whether it's the galloping riff in the Nubian Archer or the overly dramatic picking in Swill of the Knaves and the title track, this has Goteborg written all over it. About the only difference I can hear is that Arghoslent's vocals are quite a bit lower. This sounds nearly identical to literally a thousand other melodic death metal bands out there (granted these guys do steal a little from the Florida death metal sound, at least the entire opening verse of Dog and Broom which is identical to Monstrosity, circa Millenium), only these sisterfuckers are some how lucky enough to have a record deal. And after listening to this boring too-long Monday morning shit of an album, I can say it's not based on startling originality or overwhelming talent. This crap hardly deserves to be called death metal, much less deserves to insult all of the actual good death metal albums of recent years by being called an all-time great. Dead Congegration, Immolation, Grave, Slugathor, Hour of Penance, Gorefest, Hail of Bullets, Ignivomous, Repugnant, Drowned (the German one) have all released real death metal albums in the last few years that make Hornets of the Pogrom sound like the weak retread it is.
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Steve P | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I know that this has been discussed before but I'm in the same boat as Beak. I'm all for freedom of speech so these guys can keep making their metal but I basically feel that buy purchasing this I am somehow not approving but supporting racism. I know this guys will never get to be famous if I buy it or not but I refuse to give these guys of my money. Good review nonetheless.
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Beak | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I like the instrumental part... but to be honest I can't get over the racism. By listening to this stuff I feel like I'm somehow approving of its message. Any band that has a song called "Flogging the Cargo" isn't going to get my support. Good review though, ignoring its racism I'd totally be getting this album. Too bad.
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Fatal_88 | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
I never heard of this band before to be honest, but "Best band active in Metal today" -- well I think thats an overstatement. Good review nevertheless, after reading this I think I'm gonna get this album for sure.
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Psychotic Walt | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
Woah! Should have checked this band out long ago. I always thought they played under-produced black metal along the lines of something you'd find on Moribund, but listening to the mp3s on their website I'm hearing actual riffing....and damn fine riffing at that! Thanks for the review. Probably wouldn't have found this band otherwise.
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vugelnox | posted on 4/2008 | Reply
oh fuck yeah, now this band absolutely crushes. Both of their previous albums were brilliant and highly original death metal. I almost forgot about this one because it has been so many years since Incorrigible Bigotry was released but man alive this is good stuff.
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Anonymous | posted on 3/2011
What the fuck is a 'homet'? Is it like a Homer?