Album Review

Score 8.5
Written by Erik Thomas
Published on 7/17/2007

Synopsis:

Nile. The name brings out the fanboys and haters like no other. I personally sit somewhere in the middle, as while I enjoy each album, I feel Nile’s Egyptian themed death metal has played out after five albums and the band is merely treading water. That being said, Nile treading water is still better than 80% of the other bands out there.

Review:

Even with a switch from Relapse to Nuclear Blast, Ithyphallic comes as essentially the same album as Annihilation of the Wicked--the last album where the Middle Eastern shtick started to wear off after three truly groundbreaking albums. So then basically, if you really enjoy the Egyptian hues melded with churning, technical and often stunning death metal voracity, you again will like Nile’s latest offering.

However, I find myself being a little more objective and jaded. Granted the musicianship of Mr. Sanders and co is phenomenal, especially the drumming of George Kollias (ex-Nightfall) who on his second tour with Nile elevated his status to one of the drumming elite. And on the whole, Ithyphallic is a superb album full of sandstorm riffs and lumbering Middle Eastern grooves and moods, but as with Annihilation of the Wicked, simply lacks staying power or that one truly epic album-defining track (i.e. “To Dream of Ur”, “Unas, Slayer of the Gods”). Granted, the standout second song, “As He Creates, So He Destroys,” and the title track are as good as Nile gets, with their mix of stirring Egyptian horns, buzzsaw riffs and heaving mid section, but it’s a formula that seems to have worn thin, and one the band simply relies on too much, and can’t seem to sustain for long any more. For example, the lumbering, fretless “Eat of The Dead”, while a huge monolithic track, reeked a bit much of all of Nile’s other slower tracks (i.e “Stones of Sorrow” and such) and the track that should be this album’s “Unas”, the 10-minute “Even the Gods Must Die” fizzles out and fades rather than peak the album with a curse spewing exclamation point. And that sort of goes for the album’s second half--Past “Eat of the Dead”, I’ve had my fill of tempestuous, staccato blasting dual growls and Egyptian atmospherics. Still, that doesn’t make tracks like “Laying Fire Upon Apep” or “The Essential Salts” any less impressive, just a bit overly familiar at this point in the band’s discography.

High dollar producer Neil Kernon again tries his hand at death metal and again tries to capture Nile’s sound and again we have yet another overly clean mix and tone different from the last album. This time the almost programmed sounding drums and vocals are more up front and the guitars lack the density of prior albums. Can we get some consistency, guys?

The long and the short of it is this: this is a Nile album. Don’t expect anything other than yet another solid Egyptian themed death metal album that is far above average for the genre, but a little more than Nile simply being Nile. So, if you enjoys Nile’s musical status quo, as many do (myself included), you will enjoy Ithyphallic. However, if you are a Nile hater, keep on hating as the band appears to still be intent on giving a big ol’ Ithyphallic fuck you on their way to many year end lists as usual.




Score 9.3
Written by Jim Brandon
Published on 7/17/2007
As one of the more popular death metal bands to have emerged from the underground this past decade, just about everyone reading this knows what’s up with Nile. This year has been inundated with some pretty solid death metal of all different types, yet these guys manage to stand apart and stand tall by doing what they do best--a fiery melding of traditional Egyptian influences with technically crippling death metal. I’ve never completely bought into the hype of Nile’s otherworldly abilities, but many doubts have been erased with Ithyphallic as to how fresh this band could remain from album to album while applying the same basic, albeit unique aesthetic.

Relatively compact and dense compared to previous work, and even more abrupt and direct than Annihilation Of The Wicked, there is still a great deal of complex technical prowess displayed on rampaging tunes such as “Papyrus…”, “As He Creates, So He Destroys”, "Laying Fire Upon Apep”, and “The Language Of The Shadows”, all of which are hyper enough to cramp hands just listening to them. Even among the cacophony there’s no great struggle to keep up with the music due to the smoothness of the arrangements, and Ithyphallic is laid out differently than any other previous Nile album. The three longest and slowest songs bring forth a doomlike beginning, middle and end to the disc, with “Even The Gods Must Die” being the most lengthy and somewhat dragging of the three, but “Eat Of The Dead” features torturously mindbending notes and a sort of desperate drunkenness that feels like slow poisoning. Tucked in among these three monster tunes is nothing but wrist-breaking death metal played with the expert precision we’ve all come to expect from Sanders, Toler-Wade, and Kollias.

I consider Neil Kernon’s return as producer to be a good choice, for the sound comes across as rich and natural (but not nearly as earthy as the killer new Behemoth), and with just enough polish applied to sharpen everything to a razor’s edge level of clarity without sacrificing overall depth. Karl and Dallas are just as lightning fast, complicated, and precise as ever (those leads!!!!), and George Kollias sounds totally confident and commanding behind the drum kit, to the point where he feels like the true missing piece that has been found and establishes Nile as the premier death metal entity on the planet at this moment. It’s very cool the way they've made this an easy album to absorb without toning down all the special things that set them apart in the first place, and doing so with no softening of their attack.

There’s not much left to say, and Ithyphallic simply knocked the hell out of me and has placed this act permanently on my Bands Not To Fuck With list. Still not a huge fan in the end, but the level of songwriting expertise and technical mastery that Nile shows on this album is undeniable. Great song cohesion, excellent sound, ruling cover art, and no compromises. I feel sorry for those unsuspecting Ozzfest kids.



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Randy | posted on 6/2009 | Reply
Hey, Bezoar... nice analysis of the band. You payed to sling around shit like that?
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BringThePain | posted on 5/2009 | Reply
Been spinning this bad boy all day. This record kills.
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idesofmarch | posted on 9/2008 | Reply
just started listening to this beast again.. didnt like it that much when i first got it.. but now.. i love it!
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nev_ski | posted on 9/2008 | Reply
What an awesome album...I love Death Metal and love this band as well
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nile08 | posted on 3/2008 | Reply
no they're not a joke band asshole (aka Cold Nipples). they're good fucking death metal
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BEZOAR | posted on 2/2008 | Reply
I haven't bothered with this one and after reading the reviews I don't think I will. Sounds like the same ol same ol, which is cool if you're into a band that much, but I can only handle so much of their stuff. Wow is Karl "The Colonel" Sanders" freakin huge! I'm sorry, but if you're putting on a show it would be nice if you could move your fat ass around the stage a bit.
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Cold Nipples | posted on 12/2007 | Reply
Wow these guy really do suck. Are they a joke band like tenacious D?
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Nailed To Gold | posted on 11/2007 | Reply
I agree: The new Sarpanitum > Nile
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Irukandji | posted on 10/2007 | Reply
If you like Nile, buy it. If you love Nile, you already own it. Bottom line is, it's just another Nile record, rock solid to most, crap to some. It's worth scrapping up $12 - $13 for. There IS different material for Nile on this record, as well as some innovative riffing. I say buy, but remember: technical death metal does not care what you think of it.
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James | posted on 10/2007 | Reply
alright. I like some of Nile's stuff. I thought 'Unas Slayer of the Gods' and 'Annihilation of The Wicked' were amazing songs, I thought the rest of their work is at least solid death metal. However, I'm not going to lay down money to hear the same thing even if it is done a bit better. IS THIS ALBUM WORTH BUYING? Is it something fresh enough to invest in?
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Irukandji | posted on 9/2007 | Reply
@Sauron: first off, go back and do vocals for Decapitated you noob... Joking aside, I and most people below would agree to start with Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren Ka and Black Seeds of Vengeance. If you want great production, though, the last two have it hands down over the others. Actually, pick up the relapse best of cd/dvd, which has three songs from all four major releases before Ithyphalic. Then pick your poison.
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Sauron | posted on 9/2007 | Reply
I can't decide which Nile album to get. Which one is the best starting point for someone who's never owned one of their albums?
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MKrlks | posted on 9/2007 | Reply
This album is by the far the least memorable out of Niles Discography...some songs were good and catchy, the musicianship was great but it looks like Nile ran out of ideas for songwriting. With that saids, Black Seeds of Veneance, In their Darkened Shrines, and Beneath the Catacombs are the only albums worth getting if you appreciate Nile in its freshest form. Annihilation of the wicked was half good ( half the songs were good )
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Irukandji | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
@Kenny - I've seen Decapitated quite a few times in the last two years and the worst sounding show was in a small night club. I think it mostly had to do with the idiots running the place; it was a dance club, dress code, hip-hop joint here in Ybor City/Tampa. They really didn't have a grasp on the "metal" sound. Hypocrisy sounded thin but better, then it finally rounded out once Suffocation took the stage. But it was still off. I've seen all three bands @ State Theater in St. Pete and it was a huge difference. Hell, every band I've seen there sounds great. The crew there understands the difference between the monitor and stereo speaker mixes, as well as what the band hears vs. what the crowd hears. Nile is built for a massive sound; the latrines @ Bogarts are under the stage, downstairs. I ran down there between songs but they started AOTW when I was still there; the ceiling shook and the lights were flickering. Any band with triple full stacks and a huge drum kit is made for big venues. But I do agree that Nile uses a lot of distortion; it's the tone they want, though, and sounds clear and fat out of SD Invader pickups. I can see were riffs sound muddy, but I've always heard the leads with no problem. At any rate, try catching them at a bigger venue if you ever get the chance.
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Kenny | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
@Irukandji - Thanks for replying, i agree with you there are some inane lashes on this one, some of the comments have been completely retarded, sometimes funny though :) As for the venue i think you're right, with the technicality and style of Nile's leads a decent size venue with quality sound gear must be essential - as for positioning i'm a hifi buff and whether it's a gig, at home or at the movies i always position myself for maximum stereo quality and sound imaging depth so it must have come down to the venue which is really disappointing for me - i'll have to travel to the states and hear them at a good venue!!
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Irukandji | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
Just saw them last night in Winter Park, FL; like always they own. Great set in one seriously hot/humid bar. Ithyphallic has grown on me considerably, and after seeing them play the stuff live, I find it to be far better than most people are saying, except for the 2nd review above. And this has grown into one of the best lashes on MR; except that some people argue like 90 lb. lesbians. And again the "this is boring", "repetative", "mediocre band" comments are a clear sign of non-musicians and mental retardation. And @ Blerg: you obviously have ADD/ADHD, you genetic mutant. Go listen to more quick, spastic metal because you have the attention span of an ant on speed. There's nothing wrong with quick, spastic metal, either, just the freaks who can't listen to anything else. If I'm wrong in my assertion, then you are just a douche bag. @Kenny: there's something you have to understand about acoustics at venues. The sounds are different (shitty or great) depending on where you are standing, what speakers you are near, and how good the venue equipment is. And sometimes the venue just sucks all together. Nile is made to be at a big venue. They sounded like a force of nature @ Bogarts, Cincinnati. And everything was clear.
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ZAc | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
I really like NILE im so fucking tired of hereing everybody say that nile is like behemoth there both awsome and the boyth have a differnt sound this album gets a 666 in my opinion!!!!!!!!!!
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bob sundy | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
Nile and Behemoth sound the same. I also believe that Cypress Hill and Bolt Thrower sound the same. Nile is far from overrated.
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Necrobutcher | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
Nile is one of the most overrated death metal bands imo. their songs are too repetitive and boring that i could never get into any of their albums
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No One | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
Nile fanboys ftl The new Sarpanitum > Nile
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Coroner | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
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Renoroc | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
OH MY GOD. I'm listening to it now. It is fucking beyond brutal. It is so awesome I shit you not. Go get this disc now!
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James | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
I doubt I'll be checking this out... Nile has some amazing talent but like the reivew and many below comments state, they need to try something new.... if they come out with something that impresses more than Unas Slayer of the Gods [my favorite Nile song ;) ] than I'd be quite surprised
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Alex | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
Nile always releases quality death metal. I am a fan but I must say that the last two offerings from Nile has been a little dissapointing. Sure there are some great songs here and there, but overall the dark and sinister feeling is somehow lost. The best Nile album is still ITDS closely followed by BSOV and CONK!
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BrutalDeath | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
Cant say Im really groovin on this album yet, not nearly enough of the Ancient Egytian ambience and effects and I agree with prometheus in that I very much miss the tri-vocal thing. No Nile album has topped Black Seeds Of Vengeace imo with a the close second benig Shrines of course
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Prometheus | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
Loving the new Nile. Dallas' best vocal performance, but I miss Vesano. And Sanders, for that matter. Its pretty much just Dallas singing on this one, I liked the three vocalist thing they had going on. Production a bit thin? Great album though. Shrines was my favourite, for the record
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Nailed To Gold | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
Thats your opinion bee-wee. i dont think it comes close to Black Seeds or Shrines.
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Bee-Wee | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
best Nile album to date. Not by far, but... well, it is. Anybody bitching is just retarded.
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Mike Hock | posted on 8/2007 | Reply
"you know how I know you're gay"
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i hate you | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
i'm pretty sure i just wasted 2 minutes of my life reading the last 20 lashes on here. I think i've lost all faith in humanity.
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bundy | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Fuuckoooff Burns, you were talking shit a few lashes ago. Jump on that bandwagon, you fuckin' anus.
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Reverand Burns | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I totally agree, ebbed. The real reson I'm here is to say that this albumn is badass. This & Behemoth's new CD are definatly on my top 10 list this year, along with King Diamond, Marduk, & Estuary releases.
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ebbed in filth | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
nice to see the nile thread become hijacked by a bunch of children with nothing better to do than pick fights with each other thru the internet. lovely. pretty fucking sad.
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bob sundy | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
...no, you're gay! ....no, you're gay! ....no, you are! ...You are a fag! ....No! You are fag!
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Violence Breeds | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I see that Bob Sundy & his "alter egos" are still obsessed with rainbow flags & Elton John. Sorry about his childish & homoerotic behavior Metal Reveiw.
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Sundy Bada | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
wait a minute...Violence and Reverand are the same dude! Why else would they team up? Why else would they pop each other's cum bubbles and hold hands with fingers crossed in the doc's office?
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Violence_Breeds | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I see Bob's still a little mad at me for making his wife's twat to loose for him. Bob, it's time you grew up, became a man, & stop using people's lash names then using it to yell out your sick homosexual fantasies. if you want Karl so much, go to Nile's website. I'm sure he's to hetero for you tho. You better stick with your wife that comes to me for satisfaction. Oh yeah, she told me she is sick of havin' to use a dildo on you, it disgusts her.
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bob sundy | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Reverand Burns: Your mother has aids. Why don't you go fuck her?
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Kenny | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Nile's live performance has not lived up to my expectations and i've seen them twice, i much prefer listening to the albums. Live they just did not impress, it was a small venue with a less than adequate sound system but just before them Decapitated played their set and they kicked Nile's ass, Nile use two much distortion and the leads are simply not clean enough in a live setting. When Decapitated played, Vogg's solos were amazing and when Nile played the dual leads just blurred into noise...
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Hired Goon | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Heard the new Behemoth - don't strike me as so good, way preferred Demigod. Nile remain the champs.
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Reverand Burns | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
bob, your homoerotic obsession with violence_breeds has gotton out of hand. taking his name & pretending to be him to easy. I thought your daddy fed you his semen better than that. Go back to your black husband, Bob.
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bob sundy | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Behemoth put out a better album, hands down.
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violence breeds | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
this band melts my butter! Anybody with a bulge in the front of their pants like Karl Sanders has what it takes to make the most testicular album of the year. When i heard the speed-picking, it gave me a bulge in the BACK of my pants! Anyone want a pound of ground beef?
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i dont know | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
well i love Nile, and was super pumped up for this album, but overall i just cant get into it. It has a couple great parts here and there but overall its just boring to me. I dont think the production is anywheres near as good as AOTW
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steve | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
this drummer is sSWEEET!!
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vag | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
How many records have Crimson Massacre released and how many nile ? Crimson Massacre are great but ............. just wondering. Do you get my point ? It is difficult to keep things fresh after the third record. Nile's current record ithyphallic is great. As for the next one-s? We will see. I think that they will make it. Sanders - Dallas are extremely talented musicians. They have proven that.
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Blerg | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Nile has always been the same. It's always been these riffs constructed around predictable palm muted Tremolo picking with more emphasis on brutality to randomly placed guitar leads. the formula has always been the same for Nile and every single other mediocre death metal band. I just feel that they don't create anything truly challenging beyond "wow they can play fast and technical!" If there is one great Death Metal band that is not only more technical than Nile, but infinitely more challenging artistically, it's Crimson Massacre!
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vag | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Musically not so much, cause both bands have their own sound (thats why nile is not a suffo clone). But there are some general similarities you know. Like the thundering rhythm section, the very brutal vocals, the speed, the very inspired riffs and iam not just talking simply about the death similarities. Anyway, i talked about the production, not the music and the production does remind me effigy in a better way. It could be me. Imo Ithyphallic is to amongst the catacombs what suffocation's self-titled is to effigy and that means an amazing record. Not groundbreaking. As for the best Nile record, i do not know. They are too many :-)
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Zack | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
New Akercocke is the best DM album of the year, but this is still pretty good. Nile is a very consistent band and they are great live.
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i hate you | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
veggie is right! they are nihilist! ha ha
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Nailed To Gold | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
My point is that this album is no where close to Effigy of the Forgotten. It sounds nothing like it, and it sure as hell will NEVER come close to being as groundbreaking. This isnt Niles best work in my opinion. Not even close.
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Vegitarian | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I can't listen to these guys. They are nihilist!
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Dalek - 13 | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Something as strange as Chuck Norris teabagging Nile haters, you would think that would end up on the news.
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Hired Goon | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Managed to get a listen .... great work, far ahead of AoTW and considerably more inventive. As per my concerns in an earlier lash, there's enough freshness and invention to keep the Egyptian beast alive and healthy. Brutal and destructive! Less keen on the snare sound, but the slightly clearer vocals are good by me when the discernable lyrics are as interesting as Nile conjure. It's hardly clear singing, anyway. I see this in many a year's top 20, but not at the top. Glad to see them back around the standard of Shrines. I'd go for 5/5/6.
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vag | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Nailed To Gold this band along with behemoth and 2-3 other bands are next to suffocation at this moment so i do not understand your point. Iam a fan of all of them and that's my opinion. Nile is not a small band you know and it is very influential also.
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Nailed To Gold | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Please do not go around saying the production (or any part of this CD) sounds like Effigy of the Forgotten. What a disgrace to Suffocation
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JB | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Well, I guess I'm one of the few who actually like Nile here. Anyway, I dig the new album. I like it the more I hear it. Is it the best death metal album of the year? Nah, but I'm not disappointed. We still have a lot of '07 to go before we determine that.
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synthmesc | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
It really does take more than a few listens to get this album but the problem is alot of folks simply dont have the patience to do this. Just like Meshuggah it takes awhile to hear everything going on.
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L-Piece | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I'm really glad Nile are really popular now, but at the same time I'm not compelled to buy this album. I've got their last two and wasnt impressed anymore by this, I agree with the first reviewer I think theyve got a really big hurdle to leap with the next album even hardcore Nile fans cant support a 7th spin on the same idea.
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vag | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
It is better than AOTW, which means great for Nile's fans like me. The production reminds me that of "effigy of the forgotten" but it is better guitar sounding and less bass-y. Basically cleaner and more balanced i would say.
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i hate you | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
has anyone seen Karl's completely outlandish double-necked fretless guitar? Ridiculous, but at the same time completlely badass.
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CHUG! | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I`m not a Nile-Hater, I`m Nile-Indifferent. They can be pretty boring most of the time. ooooh, a Chuck Norris comment. That is so 2003. Welcome to the internet, dork.
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Steve P | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Something as important as the Sphinx's nose cracking off you would think that would end up on the news.
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TO ALL NILE HATERS.......... | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Chuck Norris teabagged you by force. Karl Sanders watched the whole spectacle in amusement. His mighty laughter shook the entire Egyptian Valley, the vibrations causing the nose of the Sphinx to crack off and tumble down onto the desert floor below. The Sphinx has never looked the same since that fateful day and NILE still rule.
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ike | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
i really like it. with some of the other albums the guitars and everything melded together somtimes which made it kind of hard to distinguish for me. but on this one it doesnt seem like this...
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i hate you | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
who censors their own typing? especially the word ass?
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SNEAKYVASTARD | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
ALL HAIL NILE!!! AS FOR YOU ALL LITTLE PUNK A** OPIONATED IDIOTS IF DEATH METAL IS NOT YOUR KIND OF MUSIC THEN STFU.
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CHUG! | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
How many times do you have to listen to this before it gets interesting? I`m starting to think it`s not that good after all...
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RAM | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
TO ME AN IDIOT
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I'm a grower......not a shower
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exactly | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@endless yeti. EXACTLY. It' s a grower. I remind people talking shit about AotW. And, today, it' s accepted as a great album. Not their best, but a excellent one. I' ve said ir before, on first listens Ithyphallic seemed sub-par for me. But now, after tons of listens... it slays. Seriously. It slays too much. Listen to the album. Listen to it again. And then some. Then, you will be able to make an statement. I think Ithyphallic is on par with Shrines. And this is saying a lot. It rapes Annihilation... What is undeniable is that Ithyphallic is the best DM release of 2007. No competition at this moment.
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Hired Goon | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
America must be asleep right now. Except for Lee, who's rockin' out to the new Nile album...
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YourMom | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Wow. Lots of comments on this album. Guess what? It still just blows.
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endless yeti | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
all i can say is that this album is a grower, i have a feeling all of these opinions are first impressions, which sucks. i was really disappointed at first but after listening to it 5 or 6 times through its becoming one of the best albums of nile and the year for me. i think every nile album is way different, you can hear the progression through the years, i think all of you who are saying that it sounds the same as everything else they have released have only heard samples of every album, maybe try having legitimate reasons for bashing such an amazingly talented group of musicians.
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Stalker | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Y have I always hated Nile ???
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Truth | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Lee is an egoistic Vrumft
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Ike | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Whoa i saw this at Wal-mart today... i was really surprised.. but i didnt have the cash to buy it so im gonna get it tomorrow or friday hopefully...
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The Great Debate | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Hahahaha. All I can say is Nile have killed with this one. Triple 6 for me.
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Violence_Breeds | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Maybe Lee & Jimb are a married couple from Massachusets. Gays hate badass Nile fans like us.
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Violence_Breeds | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
My name is a Speed\Kill/Hate song fluffboy, hardly a mallcore band. The name Jimb screams out gay pride.
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RAM | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
FIGHT CLUB IS COMING. Lee BETTER HIDE.
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JohnnyLaw | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Yea, these guys were pretty sick at Ozzfest...as for the new album, same shit, different day...
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Zaibach | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@Lee I know.. I'm not upset because people are talking crap about Nile.. I'm pissed cause some people here just never stop.. whatever the band lash they just talk shit all the time.. I don't have any beef with you Lee (even though sometimes I disagree with your lash) but there's some people here that have zero credibility in what they say, all they do is piss and moan without giving any concrete reasons or mass to back up their weak attempt at bashing.. and.. well anyway.. I'm not THAT serious .. all those years of arguing on mIRC in some metal channels did it with time.. I've seen it all, but sometimes I just HAVE to bitch about others that piss me off.
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Jimb | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@Violence Breeds Hahaha, you dork...you're calling me a metalcore boy but you're the one with the screen name that sounds like a fucking metalcore band name. Violence Breeds...hahaha that's so friggin' gay.
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RAM | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
SIR LEE AKA "FUCKSTICK" IS TAKING THINGS TOO SERIOUS i think
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Captain w/MR | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
JB, I wish we'd get that damned Outworld sent to us! I'm dying to hear it, and from what I understand, it smokes. Symphony X will be crunched out soon, but not by me. :)~
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Violence Breeds | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
This albumn is great just like the band. i have a problem with that mallcore boy named Jimb. He is the on that likes to lick Cory Taylor's mask. I'd love to fight Jimb in Metal Review fight club. Nile prove once again to be in the metal elite.
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Umm, I think you take it to serious......why get all upset. It is all fun and games if people crap all over Theatre des Vampires (who I actually like) but some how Nile should be spared? The guys are good at what they do, but so is that chick that give High Colonics at the SPA but it doesn't mean I have to dig it......
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Zaibach | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Metalreview needs to start a fight club.. I'm dying to put my foot in the ass of some lashers here. The enormous lack of respect, common sense and good judgement makes me want to puke.
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JB | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
While most of you are too busy lashing out at each other, I was just wondering when the fellas at Metal Review are going to review 2 of the best albums this year...Symphony X's Paradise Lost and OutWorld's s/t. I already have my opinion on them, but I'm surprised you guys haven't reviewed them yet. Also, how 'bout the new Akercocke?
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The Great Cretaceous Bob | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I think if you examine anything close enough and gather people's opinions on it, no two will be the same. People may agree on a broad idea, but the more specific you get the likelihood of people disagreeing increases. In short, you can't voice your opinion about anything without someone who disagrees with you hearing you. The only solution is a lash-fight to the lash-death, Highlander style. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Isn't Metal funny how you can hate DT but I love them and how you can love Nile and I know they are boring and worthless riff wankers? I just hate that kind of Death Metal, no offense to Nile. What do you think of that quandary blob?
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The Great Cretaceous Bob | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Damn skippy I can teach people a few things. I got not one, but TWO lashes out of Lee. Anyway, Lee, if you want to have homosexual lust for fight guys that write fucking shitty riffs and then hide them with terrible vocals and abysmal keyboards, then be my guest. Just don't soil actual great bands like Nile by trashing them in a thread for this awesome shit.
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Awesome | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Nile = AIDS Best line ever.* *(!)
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... | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Chris?
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Jimb | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Nile fans are sort of like Britney Spears fans. They know little about music, they look like fags, and they're easily impressed. Nile = AIDS
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Mark - When you aren't busy writing riffs please explain this to me: "Go watch the latest Hollywood blockbuster and let us know how many people respond the references next time. " I have no idea wtf it means?
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I got 4 paragraphs out of you did I not? Who is the sheep now? I have been to more continents then you and none of the trips involved living in a van down by the river. Please, save you pseudo intellectual musician I have seen the world crap for some chick you want to impress. My ultimate fave thing though is when dudes that play in bands say everyone and their opinion is retarded unless they are in a band. We make u dude, without us you might as well just sit at home and sing in the shower. And if you hate the internet and all of us that post here why are you one of us? Anyways, I'm on vacation, I can go all day if you want, this is how I blow of stress, by making people like you that take music and metal way to serious have an embolism. Hey you want to insult me or whatever, do it like Bob so I can at least get a laugh out of it, Bob could teach you a few things.
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Mean Mark Callous | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Oh no...my manhood has been put into question via an internet post from Lee, the almighty fuckstick of MR lashers. My credibility and experience must now be put into ultimate judgement without a doubt! First off Nile, and any other band for that matter, look at your self-sucking ability and laugh all the way to the stages around the world as Lee and other ingrates sit back at their pc's and throw ignorant opinions left and right into the ever useless void of sheep who argue over that which they haven't even lived nor worked for most of their lives. Lee, I have traveled to 3 different continents making a living playing my music...having untold great times playing in front of and meeting fans of metal who are without judgement and not sitting on a fartstained chair in front of their computers for hours on end. I've spent the endless hours into days in a van with the equipment, and flying into who-knows-what-the-fuck-is-going-to-happen-next country or province or state to perform and to show what my band has to offer. A 'metal messiah'? No. But whatever I am it is much more than your idiotic, judgemental brain could ever comprehend. Nile have released an album with immense integrity, ability and talent here. This is not a quesition of genre-pleasing or mass-appeal...it's what it is, a killer, brutal death metal release and if you don't like it, too bad. There are plenty of anti-Killswitch Engage and non-Atreyu fanboys who do and we sure as fuck won't lose any sleep over your lashes and opinions.
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Munger | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Dude, why are you still posting? Firstly, if you dont like a band and their "gimmick" (it's called inspiration dipshit) then DONT FUCKING POST ABOUT THEM. Secondly as the cliche goes, get a fucking life because sitting in front of your computer jerking off to Dark Tranquility doesnt count as a life.
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Pimplestiltzkin | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I like the album. The riffs just seem catchier and the album breathes a little more than previous albums. They've already shown that they can pummel us with speed and complexity. There was really nowhere else they could go with the music unless they opened it up more. It also seems like there aren't as many of the ultra low vocal grunts that were all over prior albums. I can hear these lyrics better.
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
So Mark you caught Nile at Ozzfest while waiting to blow the lead singer of Avenged Sevenfold after the show and now you are some all knowing metal messiah for the masses?
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I meant fat guys (like you comic book store guy). You want like Nile and masturbate your war god, go right ahead.........
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Bob, if you want to have homosexual lust for fight guys that write pseudo intellectual Death Metal then be my guest. Just don't soil actual great bands like DT by mentioning them in a thread for this horse shit.
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The Great Cretaceous Bob | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Lee, Dark Tranquillity didn't get two reviews because this album takes a shit on that entire band.
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Irukandji | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@the jones: elitist fanboy? True, I am, but sorry for actually knowing what I'm talking about and giving a shit about quality music/musicianship. Jim B's above review sounds more fanboy than me (and it's good- someone else who gives a shit about what they listen too). Some of us are not trying to just look at big acts in Metal and cut them down. People like that perpetuate another "stereotype": dumbshit retards. And guys like me don't have time to take naps when we are serving this country in armed combat to ensure the rest of you have peachy lives. I'd rather spend my little r&r time listening to/playing metal, as well as lash on this site.
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RAM | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@ Hired Goon Yeah, haven't you heard about BRUCE - Lee ?
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Irukandji | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@Dawson, and the rest of you retards who think Behemoth rips off Nile: why the hell do you cretins listen to metal to begin with? It's like you can't tell a circle from a square. @Eric T: Yeah after many listens on several different stereo systems I agree with the production score, but because it's quite shrill. The guitars are not far back in the mix; they're just shrill at times. The rest of the mix is crushing. It seems Nile has not been able to nail the production down perfectly since Shrines and Annihilation, and Shrines sounds the closest to their live sound. Overall, this is a very solid album with progressions Nile have never used before. And dude, I don't really care who is AOTW; I just think some of the reviewers with this site are a bit liberal with the scores. Moker is not THAT good. What would make me happy is if you guys would actually keep some sort of standard in the 666 scale. But I guess that's just in my arrogant opinion.
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Mean Mark Callous | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Yeah Lee, you are a genuine manipulator of lashes. I don't know what I would do without your pot-stirring rants, begging for attention must really get your blood pumpling, huh? Go watch the latest Hollywood blockbuster and let us know how many people respond the references next time. Ithyphallic fucking slays by the way. I enjoyed Annihilation of the Wicked, In their Darkened Shrines as well...I"ve yet to delve deep enough into the Nile catalogue to go beyond those but I am confused as to why there is so much bitching about this band, not from this sight really, but as a whole. What's wrong with a band playing music that they want to play? Apparently once you get the chance to offer your music to a crowd beyond the "underground elite", (playing on ozzfest), you suddenly become trash and play music only for the masses? Bullshit. If you can do just as good or better, then get off the fucking internet and make something happen, otherwise shut the fuck up and listen to you what you want but don't bash Nile or any other band for that matter while they are actually going out and making shit happen.
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Papa Smurf | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@ smurf: you're an imposter! If you were a real Smurf, you'd smurf: "I smurf it!". Gather, my little Smurfs! There's an imposter in our midst!!! Smurf him! And smurf him to a cross!!! @ Hired Goon Whoa. That's smurfin' weird, dude.
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Hired Goon | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I don't care if there's 1-2-3 reviews. If it's a high profile release (and Nile are high profile DM) then so be it, I can read more than one opinion on major release. Lee: "'Im still surprised how much shit I can stir up on here if I want too." Wow, man. You're a legend.
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Truth | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
BEWARE, a lunatic is out searching..........
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Erik T | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I personally dont care fo the multi reviews-this is only my second and both have been with Jim and have been better reviews than mine (the other being Mayhem). Plus im not the boss.
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Nailed To Gold | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I agree with \m/usclehead & Zaibach... I'll probably be reaching for something other than this album. And if I wanna hear Nile, I will listen to ...Catacombs-Darkened Shrines Anyone else notice the vocals seem to be toned down a little ?
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
RAM I will find u and u be happy. Two reviews for the same album....lame, but if you guys like it go right ahead. I'm still surprised how much shit I can stir up on here if I want too. You will live Deke, don't worry.
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Jishwa | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
If you're looking for face-pounding, egyptiony death metal...look no further. However, i don't think they're worth splooging all over about. BUT...you elitists can keep sucking your own cock and ego and crapping on people who don't care about any "gimmicks' and just like the music for what it is.
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Truth | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Lee has big imagination about things and himself
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Hired Goon | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
AotW...Annihilation Of The Wicked....Album Of The Week..... SpoooOOOooooOOOky!!!
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smurf | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I smurf love it!
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RAM | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@ Lee PLEASE STOP LASHING
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Jon w/MR | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@ Lee Don't stroke yourself too hard there old man. DT was chosen AoTW because it deserved it more than most of what was being reviewed and coming out at the time. I don't recall your name and/or any commnents you might have made being brought up at the weekly "Who Should It Be This Week" MR round table sessions. Good reviews guys! I know I'm probably in the minority, as usual, but Nile is pretty much a band where I feel I only need one of their albums to enjoy what they do best. My choice? Black Seeds of Vengeance...just an absolute monster of an album. I know the last few have been produced a lot better, but I'll take more enjoyable music over more polished production any day of the week.
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Zack | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I was going to pick this album up today along with the new Candlemass and Sadist, but i decided to wait for the review and the lash bashers that came along with it because they have nothing else better to do.
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powerade | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
not too bad at all. pig destroyers album is still the best death metal of 2007 so far though.
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Dawson | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
AHhahahahahhaha, wahhahahahha, blahahahahhahaha Holy shit, the fanboy cocksuckers are out in force! Tell me disgusting internet philosophers and audiophiles; if thou were to sucketh upon yon Karl "KFC" Sanders hieroglyphic covered cock, how much upper body strength would it take to keep his massive gut lifted out of your face while you flagellated for the wisdom of Ra? In shocking news, this album is just as boring and gimmicky as any other Nile album. Its pretty sad when Behemoth rip off the schtick and do it better. Really fucking sad.
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the jones | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I also enjoyed reading about Lee's pride over "getting" Dark Tranquility's new one named Album of the Week. Definitely a highlight on the ol' resume.
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ijIM | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Good death metal band, yeah but definately over hyped and over rated. I couldnt find one stand out track on here just a bunch of average ,decent ones. The bonus tracks are a ripoff they are just instrumental versions of 2 songs on the album.
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Jason w/MetalReview | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Hahaha. Yeah, Deke is right on. Erik actually wasn't going to be on board with this until he stepped in after the Chris McDonald/Deke tag team folded due to Chris bowing out. Jeremy was thinking about stepping in at one point, too, if I remember correctly. Anyway, I've never really enjoyed Nile all that much. I'd rather listen to bands like Melechesh and Behemoth. And Leee, considering the respect you have for Erik, one would think you'd spell his name correctly. ;)
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Deke' w/MR | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@Lee By the way, both times myself and Erik have teamed up, my review was actually written first. Shouldn't you be busy chewing your toenails to the bone instead of talking about things you're clueless about? Well...then again...that wouldn't leave much for you to say about...ANYTHING.
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Greg | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
fuck it, lets just put Lee in charge since he's so much more knowledgeable and more opinionated than the rest of us
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Yeah, stop the two review bullshit, you all only do it because one fanboy on the staff didn't agree with Eric. Hey if a band like Dark Tranquility doesn't get two reviews (and basically wouldn't have got album of the week if I hadn't thrown a shit fit) then what the fuck is Nile doing getting two. You all always do this for fucking bands that don't deserve it, stop it. Eric is Sparta, fuck with him and die.
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Mark | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Erik, I have disagreed with you a lot recently, but you summed it up for me here. Nile is a great band, and I've liked them since Catacombs, but there's not enough here for me to keep coming back.
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JB | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I think the perfect production for these guys would be somewhere between this album and In Thier Darkened Shrines. I don't know, but to me Erik Rutan's production job on Cannibal Corpse's Kill just can't be topped. Clear with a fuckin' HEAVY bottom end. I just don't think it gets much better. Just listen to it on a good stereo and crank it up. Anyway, Nile couldn't go wrong working with Rutan next time. Damn fine Nile album here. It seems catchier with a few groovier parts. I think Nile could benefit from throwing in a few more grooving headbanging parts in the future. The leads here are pretty damn sweet, and Mr. Kollias is awesome. Enjoyed it much more than Wicked, but Seeds and Shrines are still my faves.
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Munger | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Realist, you do realize that every Death Metal band,with the exclusion of a few like Gorguts, release the same CD over and over and over again right? So why the hell would Nile leave behind the egyptian mythology and influence? Should Cannibal Corpse start writing about worshipping Satan and anti-religion? No they should stick to gore and upping the brutality each release. Also it's "Nephren-Ka"
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realist | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
once was a band so brutal and true with songs 'bout egyptiaan lore But on and on came the Nefran Kah and many a Tut lulled to snore..
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... | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
teh band Nile have put out a good peice of music in teh album reviewed here I quite enjoyed teh previous nile albums as well how I must return to battle he who is in teh water
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Erik T | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@ Dale -i simply suck at typing-thats about it-no trend or reason
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Dale | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Nile are great, and I tend to agree with erik. Even if this album doesn't stand out above their back catalogue, it's no slouch, and is still going to be better than the majority of other death metal releases this year! However, my reason for lashing doesn't concern Nile at all. It concerns the growing trend of the way people are starting to spell "the". Why "teh"? I know that it's simply 'h' and 'e' reversed, I'm not totally lost, but why do it? Is supposed to be funny? Is it a gag that I'm just not hip too? It bothers me that people butcher the english language via a trend. It just seems as though an entire generation of internet users are developing a massive type-o fetish. Okay... I feel better now.... carry on....
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Rufus | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I love it when people insult each other because they have different opinions. For me, high school ended years ago. There is no right or wrong when it comes to death metal or music in general. With that said, I enjoyed this album about as much as "Annihilation." While I feel both albums are pretty similar stylistically, there is enough dynamic drum/cymbal work peppered throughout to make for an enjoyable listening experience. "The Language of Shadows" has one of the coolest blast intros I've heard in some time.
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Erik T | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@ I Dont think so. Thanks for reading and Great lash-I respect the fact you put that much effort into it. I think the best Nile songs ever are, stones of sorrow, Unas and The dream or ur-Nile have yet to match that mix of brutal granduer and this album seesm to be one long effort to try and recreate that feeling -and missing slightly. granted this is indeed a great album, and my score relfect that, but its simply a nother Nile album-as good as that is, nothing more. The best production the band had was on teh debut, and since then theyve messed with it and tweaked it with each album, and nver quite perfected it-though they are all fine in tier own right. i dunno-i know the band is limited in thier scoep, but maybe a halls of amenti like offshoot-a pure slow album or jsut some tweak to change up thier formula. etiher way, the band is def one of teh top 5 death metal bands aorund right now and in teh large scale of things, with 5 albums one of the more reliable, consistent veteran acts in a sea of relative unoriginality in death metal. but even then-their oroginal is stating to become unoriginal-get my drift? its like the songs from teh last 2-3 albums are merly interchangeable peices ina puzzle-the super fast track, the epic, the atmospheric track, etc. still-good album, good band. How Relaspe let them get away is beyond me
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I don't think so... | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I totally disagree with you, Erik. With all my respects, but I disagree. I find Ithyphallic to be the Nile album every Nile fan wants to hear, and Nile, as a band, wanted to release. Nile signed with NB, and a change of sound could be misunderstood as a sell-out by the fan. So Nile thought "hey, let's be grateful with all that people. They love Nile, so let's be "Niler" than ever". And they did. You love the somewhat catchy (in a good way) choruses? Sure, Eat of the Dead, As He Creates..., Even the Gods... You love the egyptian music? the intro riff of Ithyphallic is gorgeus, the final one of The Essential Salts is HUGE, the middle section of Even the Gods... Is the most accessible Nile album while being full of intrincate and devastating leads (that intro of Papyrus... reminds me of Necrophagist. Just... faster). Seriously, on my first listens, it dissapoints me a lot. I considered it the worst Nile album so far. But it fucking grows. Those riffs stick in your head. Every single song is fantastic and, believe me, some of the BEST nile songs ever are here. - The Essential Salts is maybe the fastest Nile track ever, it's extremely catchy awesomeness. - Eat of the Dead - Ithyphallic is another winner - As He Creates... fucking brilliance And, Erik, I don't know a single person who doesn't think the production is much, much better than on any other Nile album, and one of the most crushing productions for a death metal album in years. This is Nile at its very best. They seem confident of their status, and feel comfortable with it. It' s Nile's triumphant album. ¿Don't you feel the sense of greatness on tracks like The Essential Salts, Ithyphallic, As He Creates, So He Destroys, Eat of the Dead...? Is a "my cock is much bigger than yours album". And it sodomizes brutally any other DM release this year. And 2007 is a truly fucking good year for DM.
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teabagger | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
been a fan since i saw them on the death across america 98 tour with cryptopsy and gorguts. they never disappoint. can't wait to hear this.
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Zaibach | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I'm with you \m/usclehead. This album slays.. the egyptian theme is still nice imo.. but in the long run, I have a hard time coming back to listen any of their album (except their debut). While I ALWAYS come back to listen to the s/t of Suffocation, I never come back to listen to Nile.. I still own their albums though.. but bah.
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\m/usclehead | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
i don't know. While these guys are really ridiculously talented musicians, their music is really boring to me. The vocals seem to tire very quickly, as does the whole egyptian theme. maybe I'm just dumb, bit I prefer my death metal to stay along the lines of Suffocation, and even then i can only take so much of that style.
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Zaibach | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
DESTROOOOOYYYYYYYY
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JxXx | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
This is another high-quality Nile platter well worth your hard-earned dollar. Superb choice when you're in mood for some spine-liquefying malevolence. I have no objections to see this in the top five of '07, but as for death metal releases this year, new Mithras and criminally underrated Trauma are untochable. 5.0/5.0/6.0
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ike | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
yea im pretty new to this band, mostly because im probably a lot younger than the rest of you, but im 16 and i just bought a nile album. and it blew me away and i have become a perminant nile fan...
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Arivia | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Oh, great, it's the two-review slugfest. I think I agree with Erik.
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The Great Cretaceous Bob | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
This... is... CAKE-TOWN!
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gking | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
IMO, not all that much releasing the same style of album time and time again as long as it's done right. A la Opeth or Bolt Thrower, they get it right every time, and change just enough to keep it fresh and interesting. People will look back on Nile in 20 years time and be glad of it, in the end. 5/5.5/6
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Erik T | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
@ Lee have you seen the PG13 parody of the 300 trailer? "BRUSH YOUR TEETH!!!!"
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Devin | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I'm seriously bummed to hear about the changes in production style - the production was one of Annilhilation's strongest points. I'm glad to see George Kollias get a nod, though. That guy is unreal. It's amazing to me that people still aren't talking about him in the same breath as John Longstreth, Derek Roddy, Tony Laureano, Kevin Talley, and Marco Minnemann. Anyone who has seen Nile live can attest to the fact that Kollias is probably one of the best Death Metal drummers on the planet!
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Lee | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I'm glad I don't like death metal so I don't have to tax myself lashing on here. Nice review though Eric. This is not madness................This is Sparta..........aaaaaaaaaaargh
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EthR | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Skipping this one. There really is no reason to own more than one Nile album.
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ellipsis | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Good band but I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally don't see how people go apeshit over this band. Maybe I just don't appreciate this band as much as others, but I think I'll continue to blow my load over huge Devourment slam riffs instead.
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ilovenile | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Death metal album of the decade for sure and probably their best album so far.That thing about repeating themselves is bullshit and is a common phenomenon of the ''fans''(and reviewers) in the metal world,i know everyone would want another reign in blood but some "scientists" reviewers again would say that slayer repeat themselves blah..blah These guys release a perfect record every time and you blame(??!!?) them.They are light years away from any band and they are not for kids for sure..sorry
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Erik T | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I think the Moker was designated as AOTW before I submitted my unobjective and un jaded review. I imagine Nile will be AOTW next week. Will that make you happy?
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EVGENIOS | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
IMO Eriks' synopsis sum its up perfectly. Although not an excellent album for Nile's standards Ithyphallic fucking blows The Apostasy.
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HAR | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Wow, agree with the reviewer 100% here. Sure, they're good, but come on now, do we really need them to release the same album 5 times over. It's starting to get a little redundant.
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the jones | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
Congrats, Irukandji! You win this week's award for "Most Stereotypical Elitist Fanboy"! We're all very proud of you and what you've accomplished. Now go get your nap, young man.
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Daniel | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
someone didn't get a nap today
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Irukandji | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
You find yourself "objective and jaded"? You threw out any sense of being objective during your synopsis, Erik Thomas. Your scores seem fair (though I haven't acquired this beast yet so later comments will follow), but the entire review is a whiny bitch-fest about a monumentous band of our time. Though clearly being familiar with Nile's back-catalogue, you seem like the kind of listener who, after a few tracks, fast-forwards through the solos looking for quicker gratification from a simpler musical moment, like the main riff. In short, one of those fans that thinks "Lashed to the Slave Stick" is Nile's best song. The review is good and the scores seem fair; I just disagree entirely with the opinion. But I'll digress later... And how the hell can that mid-paced, fairly simple (not technical), groove based, good but not ground breaking album from Moker be album of the week?!? And they are only a 1/2 step down in muscianship from Nile? Well, then adjust the fucking scale ' cause if Moker is a 5.5, then Nile is a 9.5. Finally, fuck the rest of you who think Nile sucks. If you don't like them, fine. But if you think they suck, as in they can't play well and have no song writing ability, no sense of music theory, you should have your balls chopped off or ovaries ripped out because it's obvious you only read Hit Parader, listen to the radio too much, and need a tab book for playing albums by Godsmack and the White Stripes.
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"this album just blows"? | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
How can you really like "Annihilation" and think this album blows? They're almost identical stylistically, except "Ithyphallic" has more melodic leads, better drumming, and better production. Give me a better death metal album this year - Behemoth - no; Vital Remains - no; Immolation - probably not; Monstrosity - ok maybe Either way, this album is a beast
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YourMom | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I really liked "Annihilation...", and am one of the few who considers it their best album. ...but this album just blows.
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locustsofdeath | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
This album was amazing; Nile is one of the few DM bands that I can count on. Even during stretches when the entire genre is stagant, Nile has come through...
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paper crane | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
songwriting-wise, nile owns all other death metal bands out there today. and it's okay to churn out similar albums if you have sculpted your unique style. kinda like what opeth has been doing for the past 10 years. production is top notch imo. kernon's clear production better suits the epic tone.
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edgexxx | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I liked "Annihilation..." more, to be honest. And i agree when it is said that Nile is treading water a bit. But face it...this is still very enjoyable stuff. More and more, I'm beginning to view Nile as the new Bolt Thrower: a unique style that goes unchanged for years. And that's good! Imagine Nile playing stonerrock ... would that fit? (except maybe for the desert-theme...). I would advise them to leave a couple of more years between albums (like Bolt Thrower), so that fans can yearn again.
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Hired Goon | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
I'll be keen to check this out, but I was less taken with Annihilation.. than their previous albums so I expect the same here. These guys are absurdly talented but need to do something to freshen their style. More experimentation?? It will undoubtedly be pretty damn solid though. Uuuuuuugh-HoooouurrghHuurgh. Yas!
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holyreality | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
hugely overrated.