Album Review

Score 6.2
Written by Drew Ailes
Published on 8/5/2005
Alright, here it goes.

Anyone who's read any of my reviews knows how much I hate albums that overstay their welcome. Needless to say, when I saw the playing time of 53 minutes, I could already start to feel my blood boil beneath my skin. Adding insult to injury, this is the first time I've ever heard Between The Buried And Me, thus giving me the chance to create an entirely objective review.

Now I'm not going to do this in my typical format. Introduction, touch on some production faults, talk about the parts that stand out, blah, blah, blah. No, I'm just going to write this out as it comes to me.

So what's my problem with Alaska? I suppose I could make some stupid joke about oil prices here, but no, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you the exact fucking problem I have with this album.

This music is full of shit.

There it is! I said it! It's full of shit! It's a bunch of random riffs strung together with little concern for cohesion. The riffs themselves? Fucking fantastic all across the board. Really, they're armed to the teeth with talent, these guys. They could play absolutely anything and they can write some brilliant riffs. Their viking rip-off parts sound great, their stupid Opeth crap sounds great, their technical death metal sounds great, their lame vocorder sounds...well, lame, but still, on "Selkies: The Endless Obsession," the last three minutes sound like the rejected theme to Quantum Leap or McGyver. So they're alright in my book as far as that goes.

So why doesn't it all sound great? Because you can't put all that shit together and expect to have a great result. It's like saying, "Wow, you know what? I love American cheese. And gin! And crab dip! I also love chocolate, too! Come to think of it, I like sniffing Sharpie markers as well!" So there you are, that's how it happens. You're writing your wanky inaccessible garbage music, eating/drinking your cheesy-chocolate-crab dip gin, and sniffing markers like a goddamned fool.

Now I know a lot of you stupid asshole musicians out there won't care about the fact that they suck shit at writing a song because all you people care about are fast and dextrous riffing, but get your fat Dream Theatre-loving head out of your ass and wake up. Music is not about how may nights you've spent in your parent's basement practicing scales, it's how well you're able to accomplish what you've set out to do musically.

So have BTBAM done that on Alaska? Perhaps, if their mission was to write a "challenging" album. You know what? Fuck that term, really. What the hell is that supposed to mean? You want to know what it means? It means it fucking sucks to the point that you have to listen to it thirty times before you can even begin to remember a twenty second block of music and truly "appreciate" it.

Add to that the fact that the main vocals you hear on the album are the most monotone sound known to man and you have yourself a case of FYM. Fuck y'all motherfuckers.

Seriously, I can't listen to something so aimless. It's like watching some naked guy with a giant penis walk around in a dark room with multiple naked women on one end and exposed electrical wires on the other. Yet somehow the idiot walks into a wall, gets knocked out and pisses himself, turning something that could've been exciting into something aggravating and embittering for the witness to the spectacle.

That's it, I'm done with this. Someone let me know when these guys decide to start writing with intent.



Score 6.7
Written by Doug Moore
Published on 8/5/2005
A Bronx Tale opined that “the saddest thing in life is wasted talent,” and here’s some damn good proof. Between The Buried And Me have experienced quite the meteoric ascent over the course of their short career; from ashes of the mighty Prayer for Cleansing to their current banner slot on Victory, the band have been media darlings from day one. Unfortunately, it seems that the quality of their material has varied inversely with their popularity. S/T was a paragon of disorganized but insanely promising metalcore, but The Silent Circus’s directionless genre-stacking was a marked regression, and unfortunately Alaska continues the descent into mediocrity. The good news here is that the band seem to have settled on an identifiable sound—specifically, a blend of their familiar The Red Chord-esque deathcore and progressive power metal—and that their individual performances are as technically dominating as ever, with Tommy Rogers’ multifaceted vocal work being particularly impressive. The bad news is that while Between the Buried and Me have retained their knack for writing stupidly catchy melodies (see “The Primer” or the chorus of “All Bodies” for proof), the bulk of their songwriting has become even more boring and aimless than it was on their previous album. The problem isn’t a lack of concept or technique but of emotion; their extensive death metal segments chug and squeal with the best of them, but they are devoid of a certain elemental sincerity and are thus rendered sterile and largely boring. This type of metalcore has long since lost its novelty as an intellectual exercise, and simply going through the motions of guttural anger won’t cut it against competition like the aforementioned TRC and Embrace the End. In essence, Between the Buried and Me sound like machines sent to do a man’s job, and their dispassionate noodling and flaccid songwriting ultimately undo them.



Score 7.1
Written by Ramar Pittance
Published on 8/5/2005
Alaska, the third release from North Carolina's Between the Buried and Me, simultaneously boasts all that is frustrating and promising about this still young band. While, consistently demonstrative of the band's technical prowess and fearlessness, it also suffers from a general disconnection from what solid songwriting is all about.

Having always been a band that is more about great parts, than great songs, Alaska is filled to the brim with supremely evocative riffs and leads. The melodic intro to "Alaska", the serpentine but accessible main riff of "Selkies: The Endless Obsession", along with the subsequent guitar solo, and the occasional emotional clean singing parts offered by Tommy Rogers are the moments that make every BTBAM release worth hearing. However, it's the extended lack of structural integrity throughout Alaska's one-hour run time that make me question whether or not this album is really worth owning.

I can't deny my overall enjoyment of this release, despite the recurring urges to reach for the remote and fast forward to the really good parts. Because, trust me, there are some really good parts on this album. Unfortunately, really good songs are slightly harder to come by.

A flawed but ambitious release, that proves a flurry of great moments doesn't always add up to a great album.



Score 9.2
Written by Harley Carlson
Published on 9/5/2005
Further cementing their position as the premier mathcore outfit, North Carolina’s Between The Buried And Me return with their third (the second on the Victory Records imprint) pivotal effort Alaska. With a seemingly infinite arsenal of technical agility, the Charlotte quintet churn chaotic rumblings that are as equally captivating as they are incapacitating. By employing an intelligently calculated songwriting system that is supported by an eclectic collection of influences from an array of genres, Between The Buried And Me have become an unpredictable and untouchable entity that is not only its own, but the only of its kind. Continuing their experimental evolution, Alaska is the next logical level in an already mesmerizing line of innovation.

While their 2002 self-titled genesis was essentially a full-fledged deathcore aural ambush, amid the mosh pummelings were a handful of lighter accents that allowed the album (and the listener) to breathe momentarily. On the widely acclaimed The Silent Circus, the band incorporated more of these toned down passages to their unobstructed sonic savagery, producing a hard to classify genre-blurring masterpiece. A couple of years and a wealth of experience later, Between The Buried And Me are showing significant growth as musicians as well as songsmiths. Each member working with and against each other for and in the spotlight is how such catastrophically beautiful compositions as these eleven epic tracks manifest.

A cohesive collection of individual riffs and phrases, Alaska’s structureless configuration conforms to no traditional songwriting design. What some (the same who are in search of instantly gratifying straightforwardness) would deem as aimless wankery without regulation, others may consider to be fragments of a much larger enigmatic picture that takes time to fully digest and appreciate. With music that is as atmospheric as it is dynamic, Alaska expands every dimension of The Silent Circus by a degree of no less than tenfold. From the blast beaten hyper-thrash path traveled on the first part of “Roboturner”, to tranquil delay driven instrumental interludes like “Breathe In, Breathe Out” and “Medicine Wheel” that occasionally reverberate throughout the album's fifty plus minutes, Between The Buried And Me withhold no musical emotion. The devastating title track is technical and brutal enough to impress as well as maybe slightly intimidate Cryptopsy or Capharnaum, while “Selkies: The Endless Obsession” and “Backwards Marathon” are far finer examples of psychedelic death progression than any of the songs on Opeth’s latest offering.

When you’re unbound by categorical strings the possibilities are endless, and Between The Buried And Me manage to raise the bar once again with this staggering package. If there was ever a doubt that they could match the intensity and quality of The Silent Circus, you’re in for a shock. Alaska is not only the band’s most complete work to date (if not ever), but unquestionably the pinnacle of all metalcore divisions. Upping the ante from The Silent Circus, Between The Buried And Me are a sure bet in a high stakes game. For fans of the genre and admirers of limitless technical prowess, now is the perfect time of year to visit Alaska.



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xmelodic | posted on 8/2009 | Reply
Fuck Mr. Maxipad two reviews below me. If their musical geniuses WHY CAN'T THEY MAKE DECENT MUSIC?
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SymX | posted on 6/2009 | Reply
You waited this long to rage about it? He knows what hes talking about, this band fucking sucks.
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Johnny_Phoenix | posted on 6/2009 | Reply
I created an account here solely because of Drew's immature and thoughtless review. I can't believe you guys (metalreview.com) let this guy write for you. To Drew, First off let me start off by saying that your review is bad in two ways, the latter is the review itself, but the main reason is how you write it. Any credibility you might have is lost after you start spewing swear words all over the place. You are writing a review! Not sitting in your friends basement, smoking pot and talking about what bands you like. The fact that you have to insult the music with pathetic name calling is well... pathetic. You are coming across as an angry, pompous ass whose vocabulary is equivalent to that of a really bad rapper. I won't get into great detail with what is wrong with the review itself, but I can paraphrase it in one sentence: "I don't like it because it sucks." You know what separates a good review from a bad review? In a good review you explain why something is good or bad, while in a bad review you just say that it is bad. So their mixing of genres is bad because it makes the music a mess? Okay... how!? Explain that to me smartass. Every song has something unique about it, and there is structure in all of them, even if you disagree. I'm assuming you are the kind of person who needs the verse, chorus, verse, chorus system to keep your simple brain from overloading. Honestly who do you think you are? My mother is a musician. She is a piano and vocal teacher, has a masters degree in music, and used to be a professional opera singer. But even with her classical training she thinks BTBAM are incredibly talented and creative musicians. Are you even a musician? Metalreview.com, fire this fucking clown.
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lairadorada | posted on 5/2009 | Reply
wasted talent, music full of shit, come on! I would expect a more professional, or less biased review from guys in metal review. to the guys who read them, don't believe what they say, the album is incredibly well executed what to some may be like guys showing off, to me it's a really cohesive and catchy bunch off songs, it seems to offend some people that they are able to play many styles and have no qualms about approaching them. alaska kicks!
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lairadorada | posted on 5/2009 | Reply
wasted talent, music full of shit, come on! I would expect a more professional, or less biased review from guys in metal review. to the guys who read them, don't believe what they say, the album is incredibly well executed what to some may be like guys showing off, to me it's a really cohesive and catchy bunch off songs, it seems to offend some people that they are able to play many styles and have no qualms about approaching them. alaska kicks!
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Reverend Campbell  | posted on 7/2008 | Reply
Fuck.
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dandamaged | posted on 7/2008 | Reply
What is the big deal with everyone throwing around the word coherence.Fuck off and double fuck off.Coherence is only a point of perception based on the comparison with what you have heard before, and what you are hearing now.Basically you say its incoherent when you should be saying "I'm not into technical metal,and I don't get it(get it as in like it, dipshit)".Fuck you all for judging the time and key changes when its your own taste clogging your ears.Try approaching it without your own bias "metal" opinion and point of view and you might actually understand why it doesn't cohere for YOU, as opposed to why BTBAM can't write songs that YOU like.Boring shit chucking apes. There's plenty of other boring straight line bands out there so fuck off with your leather pants and stop blaming bands style of writing to hide your own stubborn musical preference. Especially to those of you who downloaded one or two songs listened to it twice then posted like you have knowledgeable teachings to pass on from a low quality mp3 one spin opinion. I fucking hate you I hope you die Yay Alaska
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whatever | posted on 10/2007 | Reply
Oh, Christ, people. I'm sick of hearing these in-depth excuses about why this album is great and we don't understand BTBAM's music and so on and so on. They have alot of talent only to make an album that is an incoherent fucking mess. A gazillion time changes does not make an album great. Get over yourselves and this fucking band.
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Swollengoat | posted on 9/2007 | Reply
'Colors' is fucking amazing!
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rpj | posted on 9/2007 | Reply
where is the review for 'colors'? pretty top shelf
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greg | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
i can remember more than 20 second parts of this album. actually after just a couple listens i had the parts down and was bobbing my head throughout. no problem at all, i don't see what the big fucking deal is. great fucking album.
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Ece Anastasie | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
What in the world happened to yo. Ece Anastasie.
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EternalQuestion | posted on 6/2007 | Reply
The main criticism of many a technical band, be it in the extreme field or a “progressive” field is that they can’t write “songs.” Well, from what I gained from my many years of listening to bands in such genres is that they are, in fact, writing songs. Albeit, they don’t usually adhere to the standard “ABAB” form, or “intro, hook, chorus, verse” etc. In my many listenings of “Alaska” since its release, I’ve become very familiar with the songs, and enjoy their diversity. Honestly, I’m pretty sure BTBAM could write your standard, three and a half minute “standard”, but then, I’m sure a lot of their fans would criticize them for “toning it down”, or “holding back.” I personally, want them to keep exploring the pushing their boundaries.
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ellipsis | posted on 6/2007 | Reply
JRX has my respect for the motW reference... AMAZING BAND.
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Metalhead | posted on 6/2007 | Reply
'It's like watching some naked guy with a giant penis walk around in a dark room with multiple naked women on one end and exposed electrical wires on the other. Yet somehow the idiot walks into a wall, gets knocked out and pisses himself, turning something that could've been exciting into something aggravating and embittering for the witness to the spectacle' Classic
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Beak | posted on 6/2007 | Reply
BTBAM is pure fucking talent. Talent minus the ability to write a coherent song. Christ, how can someone truly enjoy this that much unless they have been hit on the head enough that they can only remember 10 seconds at a time. Then the album would fucking kick ass. But 10 secnods of killer riffing strung together with 10 seconds of more shit and so on is just painful to listen to. BTBAM, learn to fucking write a song and you'd probably be great. I'm not saying write some mediocre songs and melt into the thousand other shitty metal bands, but please try for some structure. I can only hope that happens on the next album.
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Kjetil Paavo | posted on 6/2007 | Reply
Chto s holodami ne v lada. Kjetil Paavo.
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Justin S. | posted on 5/2007 | Reply
haha yeah btbam's songs are reallllly difficult to learn on any instrument..especially drums..Blake has a tendency to throw in random ass fills in there that sound great but wayy different from other bands making this band stand out from everybody..and guitar?? too fuckin complicated..I have yet to find anybody who can play a btbam song all the way through without stopping and saying "That part was edited somehow in the studio" bullshit I see them do it live and no editing was done onstage..My band has alot of influence from BTBAM..you can add us on myspace www.myspace.com/autopsyofagentleman
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Justin S | posted on 5/2007 | Reply
I have to say these guys are extremely talented and are def. creative..its by far one of the most creative and different albums I've ever heard. I strongly support BTBAM for that and admire their work..I mean come on take a close listen at some of that guitar work..music to my fuckin ears! and the drum patterns are insane! so inpredictable
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dalgo | posted on 3/2007 | Reply
the lyrics are great. the bass player is amazing. the drummer is a beast. both guitar players can wail. their songs are some of the most flowing structures i have heard. how can anyone find wrong in that?
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ThMsqofARedDeath | posted on 3/2007 | Reply
hahahahahaha... omg drew... even though i completely disagree with you that was the beset album review i've ever read based on the humor alone. i can tell than one really came from the heart. i'm just gonna leave it at that and just say that i enjoyed every minute of this album. top notch. perfect live.
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Rob | posted on 2/2007 | Reply
as with any btbam release, at first it is good. after repeatedly hearing it for days on end, you grow to love it. if you spent 15 bucks on this CD and didn't give up on it within the first couple listens(foolish), you realize that it was money well spent. pure technical bliss. favorite band.
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bob sundy | posted on 2/2007 | Reply
WOW this album is wicked...nice to hear some creativity these days!! Dunno how you guys got your 3.0s for songwriting. These guys rule. Amazing vocals.
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Ben | posted on 1/2007 | Reply
They have more talent than you'll ever have at anything. Between the buried and me is a very good band and have more emotion than about 95% of the metal monotonous chug and squeel scene. You are garbage you guys hate them because you can't comprehend what there doing
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Lopka Xmass | posted on 1/2007 | Reply
Strange things happens too many times to be just an occasion
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Orphan Happy | posted on 1/2007 | Reply
Girls, have fun, not boys
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Paoppy Lock | posted on 12/2006 | Reply
Hello my little friends again
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photonstampede | posted on 12/2006 | Reply
There is no reason to just insult someone for having a different opinion than your own, but at the same time it is frustrating when some people give opinions that aren't backed up and therefore aren't worthy of respect. I hated BTBAM the first few times I heard stuff by them. Well, it was more of a love/hate. I loved some parts. The vocals and some really groovy riffs were what I liked at first. The rest of it just didn't communicate anything to me. It was harsh and abrupt. After a few more times of listening to it I started to pick up on parts I hadn't liked before. I feel like it took me a while to "get" it. This isn't a stab at anyone that doesn't enjoy BTBAM, mind you. I just started feeling more emotion for it and became attached. I started anticipating each part and getting to truly know the songs. I think one of the most beautiful things about BTBAM is that it is very artistic in a dynamic way. First of all, to me, their music is sometimes like a collage. They patch together pieces that mean something to them in certain ways that they have their own reason for. Second, if you really listen and pay attention, and know anything about music, you will notice that BTBAM incorporates a tremendous deal of musicallity into their music. Dynamics, using more than one time signature in a song, and key changes are all feats of respectable (at least) music. Third, I find the fact that it requires effort for some people to like them to be another special feat to their music. Some need to listen to their music a few more times or pick one song they already sort of like and try to see if they find anything new each time around. For some, seeing the big picture of a song as someone mentioned previously is a good way to make sense of it. For some, seeing them live is the best way to go. I know I tend to get into bands easier if I see them live. Sometimes that just makes it easier to focus on the music and to get a real feel for the way a band presents itself. Some people may want to try again later. And Some people will NEVER like BTBAM. Fourth, as mentioned before, I think it is truly beautiful that in general, people either love or hate BTBAM. (Now, how can you say it's unemotional when it stirs such strong emotions in nearly all that give it a listen?) I'm really tired so excuse my limited vocabulary and poor writing structure. My mind is blah. This is the first time I've been to this site. So far, I like it. It is a wonderful thing to be so attached to music as to become emotional (I'm glad I can.) when someone posts an opinion contrary to your own, but remember, let that settle and make sense of yourself before you make yourself sound ignorant. The great thing about being about to "speak" your mind over the internet is that you can look over what you've said before you decide to submit, so try not to make an ass of yourself. It'd be a waste of everyone's time.
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Zaik Mike | posted on 12/2006 | Reply
Hello my little friends
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Prometheus | posted on 12/2006 | Reply
My experience of this band is limited to Silent Circus. I didn't like the extreme parts of that album at all, but the middle section was cool, i remember there were a couple of nice guitar leads in there and good singing. Ironic really because I'm a total death metal-head.
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Chris | posted on 12/2006 | Reply
I can guarantee that Iron Maiden were a huge influence on BTBAM. Not to mention that Maiden were one of the first really technical metal bands, especially in the guitar.
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Seven | posted on 12/2006 | Reply
I agree with Harley, man just chill. If you like btbam thats cool, if you don't, thats fine aswell. It's all opinion, mon, just don't rip into other bands over another bands review. XD
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Harley Carlson | posted on 12/2006 | Reply
WHOOOAAAAAAAAAAA DUDE!!!!!!!!!!! You can talk shit all ya want but why ya gotta bring MAIDEN into this? Just cause someone doesn't like BTBAM doesn't mean they only like MAIDEN and have bad taste it music. It just means they don't like BTBAM. And technicality does NOT equal quality. In the case of 'Alaska' I feel like it's full of technicality and quality but I don't blame others for not GETTING IT. BTBAM is the kind of band you either love or hate. We know where the other reviewers stand and we surely know where you stand. Relax. It's called an opinion and opinions aren't debatable. I don't even think the band members would have gotten as butt hurt as you did. Chill G!
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Dot Dot Dot | posted on 12/2006 | Reply
Seriously, who the fuck are these reviewers? Do they have any sense of musicianship at all? "whhhaaaa its to choppy" "whaaa its not coherent". Go listen to your shitty ass Iron Maiden. Go learn a song by Btbam on guitar and learn how amazingly coherent it really is.
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Dave  | posted on 12/2006 | Reply
I hadn't heard of these guys until Ozzfest 06. Primarily I'm into Maiden, Opeth, Motorhead, DEATH, usual metal outfit. Right around when I was finally going to smash my skull off the hot summer concrete surrounding the second stage, so SICK of the usual recycled hardcore/metalcore bullshit, these guys came to save the fucking day. I'm not a fan at all of the lyrics (VERY disappointed) but several of the songs are flat out fucking amazing pieces of musicmanship. The jumps aren't nearly so extreme as most make them out to be once you adjust. I actually came to enjoy the frequent jumps... keeps the songs from getting stale halfway through. The lyrics in any case arent any worse or less inspired than a lot of the stock black metal hokey "satan my master of all grimmness" bullshit (even Varg realized Satanism in BM was a crock and a gimmick) or the shock value gore lyrics of most DM has latched to over the years. P.S. Ozzfest needs desperately revamped. If it wants the presteige of being the king of all metal venues in the US, it can do away with the flavor of the week hardcore bands, and the absurd amount of horrible numetal. I'm sick of a bunch of 14 year olds standing around with their parents giving me the stinkeye as I smoke copious amounts of the good reefer.
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Me | posted on 11/2006 | Reply
eating/drinking your cheesy-chocolate-crab dip gin, and sniffing markers like a goddamned fool. I love this line because it's right but more wrong at the same time. Btbam's music is more like eating the cheese, then the crab dip...with gin on the side and every once in awhile sniffing some marker...and then at the end you eat the chocolate...and the saltiness of everything eaten before it (and being enlightened by the marker of course) makes the chocolate that much more enjoyable.
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Jake Igle | posted on 11/2006 | Reply
Poem is a strange type of literature, isnt it?
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Dulsinea Toboss | posted on 10/2006 | Reply
Does anybody know any other guestbooks relating to this?
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MATTLIVE | posted on 10/2006 | Reply
BTBAM is great band with endless talent... this cd proves their true skill as a metal band.. ALASKA is a perfect album.. HANDS DOWN if u dont have this cd buy it....
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Leopold Kuf | posted on 10/2006 | Reply
Good work. Interesting posts, besides those spam...
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Teresa Yash | posted on 9/2006 | Reply
Good work. Interesting posts, besides those spam...
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Xenta Mech | posted on 9/2006 | Reply
Thank you very very very much. Wish you luck and mercy from all the creatures around the world.
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50 cent | posted on 9/2006 | Reply
i bet every member of btbam would take a dump all over your faces musically. therefore i applaud the badmouthing reviews.
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to hmm... | posted on 8/2006 | Reply
yeah i like to see alot more emotion too, i mean if they just put out as much emotion of cannible corpse they might be good in my book
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i think | posted on 8/2006 | Reply
that this cd is pretty damn good but not as good as their older
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some kid | posted on 8/2006 | Reply
amazing talent, amazing band, unique songwriting, amazing cd.
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JRX | posted on 8/2006 | Reply
Ahahah you're kidding? What, these guys don't make sense? Go try listening to Maudlin of the Well. Maybe the last 3 reviewers would prefer something easier on the ears. Like Boston.
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grady | posted on 7/2006 | Reply
there is plenty of emotion. it just isnt emotion that relates to you.
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hmm.... | posted on 7/2006 | Reply
Excellently crafted music yes, but there is no emotion behind it. almost the same as listening to Top 40 radio
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Jason | posted on 6/2006 | Reply
They need to get their act together.
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william | posted on 6/2006 | Reply
FuK U fgs
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Jude | posted on 6/2006 | Reply
Fuck this.. It was to goofy!!!
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my opinon | posted on 6/2006 | Reply
my question is how can anyone form this site give chimaira-the impossibility of reason a 666 and not these guys....well maybe its the fact its metalreview.com and not alternative/progressive reviews
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Satanic Dogslaughter | posted on 6/2006 | Reply
I got this CD a couple of months ago, and I thought it was horrible when I first heard it. No really, I HATED it. Then I got into it, slowly. The first song, I remember, was Autodidact. It had that cool little jazzy break-thing halfway through, and a nuts breakdown at the end. All well and good. Then I got into every other song. I listened to it and rejoiced. Then I put it in yesterday and was like...whoa...this shit sucks. No, it REALLY sucks. What's the term...emotionless musicianship? There we go. You see, technicality really only truly works for me when it's chaotic, like on DEP's calculating infinity. But these guys...no. Just no. Stick to prog.
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Erawk | posted on 5/2006 | Reply
BTBAM melts faces. Stop taking the music apart and just listen. And to the self titled, "fag", oh how terrible! Someone wants to do something with their life aside from living in their mom's basement for the rest of their life. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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jf;lajsd | posted on 3/2006 | Reply
Yeah, I'm with \m/usclehead on this one...most of the way. I just wish they weren't so choppy.
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Eh | posted on 3/2006 | Reply
I can't thrash my head back and forth 'cause of the annoying disjointedness. Another band I wanted to like...gone. Sonuvabitch! Just kidding. The lyrics might be weird, but I can't understand what they're saying anyway. I feel mixed about these guys.
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fag | posted on 3/2006 | Reply
oh boy! i go to nc state! weeeee!!
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Steve P | posted on 3/2006 | Reply
This is my second favorite album of 2005 only second to Darkane's Layers of Lies. The musicianship on this album is just incredible, whether or not you like they're style if you are saying these guys are untalened you're just plain ignorant. If you like this cd you should also check out Glass Casket which is the drummers other band.
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MEtalhead | posted on 3/2006 | Reply
I think this is an album that u need to listen to several times to get the feel off, i dont think the jumps are as extreme as people make them out to be. I couldnt get it at first but after several listens this has become one of my favourite albums. The riffs are brutal e.g the title track alaska. They want to be over the top and i think theyve achieved that on this album. PLus selkies has to be opne of my favourite songs for the last year or so
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honest abe | posted on 3/2006 | Reply
I'm all fag.
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honest abe | posted on 3/2006 | Reply
you are all fags, except viky. FAGS!
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FucBush | posted on 2/2006 | Reply
they flaunt the fact that they write weird, off the wall riffs...the album should've been Technical Masterbation.
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Swiss Cheese | posted on 2/2006 | Reply
ok, ok, i'll read the lyrics, but i don't think it will change my mind............
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\m/usclehead | posted on 2/2006 | Reply
BtBaM kicks ass. I don't know why every one's dissin' them, they're ubertalented. i know that doesn't automatically mean their music will be cool, but their music is in fact very cool. The trick to listening to this album is that you just shouldn't try listening to the whole thing at one time, it's too varied. Swissy, you gotta read the lyrics, then the song names make more sense.
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Viky | posted on 2/2006 | Reply
You all suck. BTMAM owns your ass.
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Swiss Cheese | posted on 2/2006 | Reply
ok, so i like heard the song Alaska and i was like "Meh, it's ok" so i bought the cd, and it fucking sucked!!! I don't know why people like Between the burried and me, it just doesn't make sense to me, it's not that they're a bad band, they just don't stand out much, and there music is boring, and whats up with the song titles , i mean seriously "Croakies and Boat Shoes", "Roboturner", what the fuck?? Did i miss something?? If so could someone clue me in??
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honest abe | posted on 2/2006 | Reply
Drew wrote a bad review. judged the genre, not the music. SIMPLE. not political. For now, hes a fag.
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Providence | posted on 1/2006 | Reply
I really like this release. The insane amount of riffs to each song was a bit confusing at first, but it's really grown onto me and continues to do so the more I listen to the album. This is absolute fucking talent as far as musicianship goes.
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Chris McDonald  | posted on 1/2006 | Reply
I don't think I've ever disagreed with you guys more. I loved Alaska-it was by far their best album. They way you guys bash their song writing is ridiculous-the way they write is completely in the nature of tech metal, perhaps you've heard of it? The way you guys talk, its like you'd ask Morbid Angel not to use so much double bass drumming or ask the Dillinger Escape Plan to kindly write in 4/4 time. Please review the albums, not the genres. If you don't like tech metal as a whole, don't let that influence your review.
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Piddy | posted on 12/2005 | Reply
I really enjoy listening to BTBAM. Are they great? Time will tell but they're damn close. I saw them perform in Boston (Middle East) last week and it was one of the best efforts I've seen from any band I've seen this year. They didn't headline but after seeing them I didn't want to see anyone else, I left. Can't wait for the next one in Boston. Anyway my point was seeing them live made me appreciate their music and this album even more.
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cliff | posted on 12/2005 | Reply
I like this album, but I think I like their s/t even better. It was recorded live in a cold basement but sounds amazing. I'd say the songwriting is at least as good as on their newer album as well. If you like Alaska, I would highly recommend their s/t if you can find it.
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rob | posted on 12/2005 | Reply
"you two shouldn't have enough [sic] bothered" -- 'you two shouldn't have EVEN bothered.' sorry its late and im studying for exams. thanks for the 15 min. break though.
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rob | posted on 12/2005 | Reply
I grew up with half of these guys. Dusty, Blake, and Paul all went to my school at one point or another and all I can say is they've been amazing from day one. About 5-6 years ago when I was buying a new guitar at some music store, Dusty and Blake walk in (remember: this was before BTBAM was even an idea). Dusty (the rythm guitarist for those who MIGHT not know) picks up a guitar and starts playing. I quietly unplugged mine and made my purchase. He was Infuckingsane. Not to mention my good friend rolled Dusty's girlfriend's (at the time) house and he called me up and cussed me out on my friend's behalf. Now Im' a huge fan of their music. It's twisted I know. ANYWayS Harley - I feel the same way about this album. Maybe I'm biased because these kids grew up across the street, but fuck it...the album has enough to keep me interested 95% of the time. Drew - Funny stuff even though IMO I think your opinon sucks. You're one of those guys I hate to love. Reading your review is kinda like a trip to grandma's. You know you're getting spoiled with good food, yet you hate grandma's house because it smells funny. You write very well and have a GREAT sense humor, but there is a conflict of interest at stake. I'm interested in good music, you are not. As for the other two guys, Doug and Dave, you two shouldn't have enough bothered; however, I guess since we are dealing with 2005's best album it was worth the time. Thanks. The band - Give 'em four years and everyone will be singing their praises. Soon we won't be talking about how they ripped off Opeth, but how Opeth traveled forward in time and ripped off BTBAM. Yeah, they're gonna be that good one day. Sorry Drew. Tommy for president. Im out.
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The Fensuied | posted on 11/2005 | Reply
BTBAM are creating a new defination as to what a great, innovative and flexible metal music should be, and they are actually raising the bar beyond people's exisiting understanding of contemporary heavy/extreme metal scene. I appreciate them as much as I would appreciate a newly defined genre meaning to subvert the categorical influences which BTBAM have.
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gman | posted on 11/2005 | Reply
Hey, whoever this eric guy is he actually knows what he is talking about. The technicality in this album and the creativity are unsurpassed. There is no group of musicians that can match the awesome entity that is BTBAM. But I can see how weak minded people would critisize BTBAM's songwriting capabilities, for their music is not for everyone and you must be a true fan of music to like such a talented band as BETWEEN THE BURIED AND ME!
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\m/usclehead | posted on 11/2005 | Reply
Oh, almost forgot, why is everyone ripping on Drew? Just because he doesn't like BTBaM's songwriting? Just because you disagree with the man doesn't mean he has written a bad review. Jesus, you people are like political hacks with your knee-jerk reactions. It's not like Drew was saying BTBaM totally suck, just that he doesn't like the way their music is put together, he acknowledges the fact that they are very skillful musicians. If you all are so good why don't you write an intelligent and well written review of this yourself.
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\m/usclehead | posted on 11/2005 | Reply
OK, so Gore Beyond Necropsy is an absolute fucking moron. Hey GBN, you are a Slipknpt fan, admit it, you eye-liner-wearin'-hot-topic-jockey-black-hoodie-n-girl-pants-fuckin homo, you obviously don't recognize real talent. Sorry about that, got a little pissed. I agree with The Eric, this is a really cool album, so what if it's all over the place, that's what makes it so good, it's called variation. I respectfully disagree w/Drew, on the claim that the "music is full of shit," I think it rocks, and I don't care what anyone has to say. There is only one track that could have been left out, that being "laser Speed", it's definitely a weird outro that really doesn't fit with the rest of the already scattered album, it's so freakin weird, it lmost sounds like latin jazz or something. BTBaM rocks, and if you don't like it,......that's cool, but I do, we're all entitled to our opinions, except for Gore Beyond Necropsy, who is obviously a dildo. Actually I have a comment that is meant to be read exclusively by GBN and only GBN: Grind sucks, and so do you, you pimple-faced, faded-black-Napalm Death-t-shirt-and-multiple-wallet-chain-wearin' little high school punk. What do you know about anything? BTBaM is not Nu-metal, but you are correctly categorized as a moron in my book. K, I got it all out, and I don't really dislike grind, I just wan't to piss this little punk off.
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Pawel w/Minion Opinions | posted on 10/2005 | Reply
I just unloaded in my bathroom... And what came out was Metal Review Reviewers nonsense... Now I know where they get their ideas from... I'm sorry, I am just bored once again...finished all my scripts for submission...and just had to say something...
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aldskfjsdal;kfjl | posted on 10/2005 | Reply
We all got to unload sometimes....
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The Eric | posted on 10/2005 | Reply
maybe all of you who have nothing but to talk shit about BTBAM dont realize or understand the concept of open writing here.. it's not supposed to have fucking mainstream structure.. it's not supposed to be just "metal" as some of you think you're background is.. 2005's almost over and you still dont realize what the change is here.. stop living off of old stuff like Metallica and Mudvayne and realize what today's metal scene is like.. it's not supposed to be a bunch of bar chords and flying solo's or the classical set up of a metal song verse, chorus, verse, chorus, solo, chorus.. they're not mainstream dumbasses.. if you want your old structure then go home and listen to your Metallica.. maybe you dont know that Between The Buried and Me is PROGRESSIVE rock and metalCORE.. metal fucking CORE.. unsanitary.. unexplained.... misunderstandably coordinated metalcore.. and maybe some of you dont realize that they do have some jazz background with them hence the reason why their stuff is so random and complexly structured.. give them credit for starting something that's brought them much success.. and give them credit for sounding original!!!! oh and yes maybe a couple parts might make you think back to a song from an old band that you listened to a while back.. let's be emo about it now and cry.. BOO HOO FREAKING HOO!.. anyways.. BTBAM is for those who appreciate the musicianship and talent of those bands who break out of the boring genre of "metal" to use imagination, skill, and taste to build something of their own.. maybe you all are just pissed off and say they suck because you cant figure out the structure of their music.. it's progressive enough how they can write song's that can contain an average of at least 3 different time signatures and sometimes even key changes.. learn to appreciate things outside of the "metal" label.. if I were someone ratting on BTBAM.. I'd think I'd come to realize that BTBAM is A HELL OF A LOT MORE SUCCESSFUL than me.. but I love them.. and I've come to appreciate them because I'm not some mainstream fucker that shits on real talent.. give these guys a break.. they work harder than you and me both.. but at least I've come to appreciate what they do for metal today.. welcome to 2005.. your just 10 months late
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aDAMN | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Mark you hit the nail right on the damn head man!!!!
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Mark | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I may not be the biggest fan of BTBAM, but I can say that they are at least as skilled as ANY band out there today. And yes, that includes bands like Ion Dissonance, Disgorge, etc. . . it's just their songs aren't for everybody.
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aDAMn | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Gore Beyond Necropsy is a fucking retard first off...secondly, this cd is fucking bad ass. Only listened to it twice so far, but its getting better. mad skillz!
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GORE BEYOND NECROPSY | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
if you are a nu metal reject with girl hair and tight pants, then this album is for you. it's absolute garbage.
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Eddie | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I heard 2 songs that I can hear on the web page, and This band Does so many rip offs that's what kills it for me. The slow part in the seekles obsession is such an opeth rip off, they do a few into eternity ones too with the guitar sweeping. I like it, although i've only heard 2 songs and some parts are extended.
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ipoopedinyourcloset | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
http://stores.ebay.com/HC-4-Ever-Distro
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DEATH TO DREW | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Write a serious review. I don't need your little spiel comparing the cd to a guy with a large dick and a bunch of naked women. BTW, this is technical metal here, not your stereotypical Metallica/Iron Maiden metal. Tech metal is not exactly cohesive and it is not supposed to sound like your generic metal these days. We might as well have a bunch of bands like Slipknot who play the same shit.
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Ryan | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
the thing that really irks me about this album is the complete lack of cohesive transitions. I completely agree that the members of this band are talented, but their showiness gets in the way of writing a song, instead they vouch to throw a bunch of random parts together and give it a meaningless name.
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key to nothing | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
what a redneck name,thrash kicks the shit out of what you listen to so shut the fuck up,go take a shower you redneck bastard
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Dunk | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
you put all the time it took to bitch about this release, you'd be able to cure AIDS and create a robo-Hitler with your toes. Yes.
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ihavegas | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I LOVE THIS ALBUM fecking goooood shit, the cohesiveness doesnt even mattttter its just a damn good album if you cant get into it, thats cool but I personally think its cool as shit .... in the winter time.. ya know... after being outside for a few hours in the snow
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B-ricer | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
yep
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drew | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
i liked necrophagist before you even knew who they were.
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spicee | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Anata is more technical and shreds better than Necrofags
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Big Jim | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I bet Drew would say Newcrophagist sucks too. Obviously too technical for him to handle. Maybe you should just let him review new Metallica/Megadeth/Slayer/80's Washed-up-Thrash-Bands cds. Actually, that music's so brainless and simple he probably hails The System Has Failed as cd of 2004.
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jonathan | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
how about we talk about BTBAM here, and not necrophagist?
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Speci | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Once again, just as many people hear technicality and automatically chalk it up to "wanking" without really listening to it. Necrophagist catches the brunt of this, because they're songs are focused almost entirely on soloing, but when you actually listen to it, you should hear the way the riffs splice into the solos, and that the arrangement of the solos into distinct sections as a way of complimenting each other shows their songwriting skill.
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the new guy | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
i respect everyone's opinion. i just want to know why it's considered poor songwriting for a band to try something different. there are many bands that i don't care for personally, (prayer for cleansing) but i don't consider them to be lacking in anything because i don't particularly like them. but shit...maybe i'm wrong...
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Harley w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I don't really get why everyone who likes this band/album is getting all bent out of shape with Drew's review/opinion. I am a big fan of the band and particularly love this abum, but I still manage to find the validity and humor in Drew's review. I think too many people just like to rip on him. P.S. Drew, you're not allowed to multi-review with me anymore cuz you just bring too much attention to yourself and make my review null and void in the process. :(
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Ian | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Necrophagist are an excellent band. I've listened to their albums many times and i think that their compositional skills are impressive.
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FGMsurgeon | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
fans of this band seem to be the same type of fans that think necrophagist is the best death metal act out there. fan boys that hear great muscianship and automatically chalk that up being a great album. because after all, if they know all the scales they must know the best structure as well. you all get the point. drew,listen to prayer for cleansing, i guarentee you'll like that much better
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drew | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
the only thing that i had to sort of think about was trying to come up with a blend of crap that would taste revolting. i originally had chocolate steak, but then i realized that might be good. the rest of it was written entirely free-form/train of thought/blahblahblah, typing in the same way i am now.
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Nick | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
...I saved final judgement for listening to the CD. I just had heard tracks here or there. However, "All Bodies" stuck with me especially the clean bits, even the fucking organ. So is this band the next BIG thing? Maybe to some. They're still pretty neat regardless.
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David | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
This album sound interesting in the painful way that you describe it. Its just that by trying too hard to be funny the review well seemed forced. But hey this is a metal review site not a writers workshop. Some great jokes but I guess when you start bashing musicians I get a little angsty. Maybe the album sucks but does it suck as hard as you think, or more like a two bit pornstar. I agree this sort of hyper tech riffing leaves the listener somewhat out of the loop. We all need a song.
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ipoopedinyourcloset | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
The most disappointing part of this argument is people arguing that someone whom doesn't enjoy any particular artist, BTBAM in this case, doesn't "get it". As far as I'm concerned, music isn't about whether you "get it" or not. It's avout whether you like it or not. Sure, undoubtedly music will grow on you. I don't think that's because you suddenly start to get it, it's because you become more familiar with the material. The same arguments are going to be used for the new Ion Dissonance CD, and many more to follow. Drew doesn't like the CD, so it's fair for him to review based on his opinion. You try giving a fair review on something you don't enjoy. It's like someone asking you "Hey, how do you like your Volkswagon Jetta" and you say "I think it's a pile of shit, but you should get one". Doesn't work; can't recommend something you think is utter shit. Can't make yourself like it either. Fuckin' nuff said?
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mak28 | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Nice review Drew. Easily one of the funniest things I've read in a long time. I haven't heard the album and have no desire to anyway. Mathcore for me is synonymous with poor songwriting so it's not hard to believe that I'd dislike the album.
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Dmoralize | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I think Drew's review is so polarizing because fans of BTBAM don't just like the music because it's technical. Personally BTBAM doesn't come off like Dream Theater at all to me, and i'd suspect that other fans feel the same way. They seem like an ambitious group of guys that honestly love music and like pushing themselves forward. So even though it's understandable that people wouldn't necessarily like their music, it seems a little odd that they would bash a band so hard and then be presenting the opinion as fact and acting as if fans of the band are not only disagreeing, but are somehow "wrong" for enjoying the songwriting. At any rate, I dig it, although it is very busy at times, so I guess I can understand why some people wouldn't. I know my bro never misses an opportunity to rip on me for it.
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key to nothing | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
..some people who actually realize the brilliance in drew's review,everyone else needs to read it again when they're not in such a pissy mood,and Chris Sessions was a great writer and reviewer and I sure as hell wish he would come back
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Jacksonlefteye | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
remember that guy Chris Sessions? Yeah, great writer with a sense of humor we all wished we had? But damnit, whenever there were clean vocals he'd IMMEDIATELY grade it no more than a 4 in songwriting, what a bastard huh? Just because he didn't "get" the music all these great albums got lousy (but funny as hell) reviews... But then, Matt wises up and realizes that this isnt fair, so he gives polarised albums like this MULTIPLE reviews, what a concept huh? So before you bitch about Drew's review, remember that there are THREE OTHER REVIEWS FOR YOU TO ENJOY You people are so fucking thick it's unbelievable
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FGMsurgeon | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
keep up the good work drew, yours and ians reviews are the only reason i come to the site. oh and the only good thing to come from this band was put out like 6 years ago and it was called prayer for cleansing
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drew | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
please don't mistake the random insertion of genre straddling bullshit for complex structure.
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Ian | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
i can imagine that it wouldn't be too funny if you're a fan of this band...for the rest of us, it's hilarious. i love the fact that people are shitting on drew for one of the funniest and most accurate reviews i've ever read.
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Micah | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I agree with the comments stating that "songwriting" is based upon entirely objective criteria. There are so many shades of music/emotion, why not try to encompass many in one song? Songwriting is what you choose to make of it. That being said, "Backwards Marathon" is probably my fave track off this. The rest is kinda disappointing.
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Mike | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Wow, Drew sucks big time. He should be released from this site for making such poor, not-as-funny-as-he-thinks-he-is review. Drew = narrow-minded , lame, and unjust.
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Ian | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
anyone that likes technical or progressive? i love martyr, i love ayreon, but this sure as shit isn't interesting to me.
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Carcass | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I was laughing so hard at your review that i forgot what form of write/right to utilize. I of course meant write.
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Carcass | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Drew, please right more reviews like this. Form and function are great but it is so much more fun to read something that is entertaining and informative. The penis guy in the dark room? I spit coffee on my computer when i read that. I'm actually still chuckling now.
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Dmoralize | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I've always kind of felt that BTBAM's greatest asset was that they seem to blend so many ideas together and make them sound like they all belong. It just sort of clicks for me and sounds very intricate, interesting, and ever-changing... yet it doesn't come off as random. This is one of those bands that really proves how subjective a category like "songwriting" really is. Personally, I fucking love it.
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xknifeintheback | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
"horrible songwriting" comments aside, this band is amazing. Period. And like the guy below me said, if you don't like/"get" "complicated" music, you shouldn't really be reviewing it. Nonetheless, I really liked Drew's choice for insults, specially the cheesy chocolate crab dip gin thing. I lol'ed. Back on topic, "Alaska" is easily one of my tops for album of the year. BTBAM have done it again.
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Grindcore Ninja Commando | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
if you like technical/progressive stuff you will like this. if you don't you wont. simple.
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random metal head | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
i get that you dont like there jumping around between styles (or at least that what it seems like to me) but thats all part of there sound, theve always used the mixing of extreem oposites in there music, and partly because there PROGRESIVE, they take you on a musical journy, if you dont like "complicated" music or chaotic structures personally that gives you no right to bash them, thats like someone saying "i dont like death metal to this album sucks because its death metal" unless you say that your review is completly opinionated and you didnt try to be bias to personal tastes at all, then i have no problem with it
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Lee | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
fuckers bitch about Opeth doing the same thing, great at playing music, hard at putting it all togahter. Damn, as much as I hate Drew, he does know what he is talking about and is probably right, read his fucking review and look at the scores for christs sakes. Noodling your fuking ass off for 10 minutes doesn't mean you can write a song. If you like that fine, but don't get all pissy when someone calls a band at it.
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Dunk | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
core? The mention of math turned me off. No need to listen. Instant judgement. I wonder why they choose the state Alaska over...Nevada. Why a state at all? selkies are really pussy, man (they're seals). Choose Cthulhu (or even a bunyip). Cthulhu is over-used, but it's still cooler.
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drew | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
i'm fucking BTBAM because they suck shit at songwriting. i dont know how this is hard to understand. i say exactly the problem. the grind parts are heavy as hell, the prog parts are never overdone - but the fact of the matter is, they're being fucking retarded and putting prog and grind back to back without a care for how the song sounds as a whole. moment to moment, it's an awesome album, but seriously, it'll take 40 or 50 listens before you can even start to feel familiar with a song.
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Cainam | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Drew, I'm sorry but that is probably the worst review i've ever read. I don't know why everyone is fucking BTBAM. Is because they're selling more than all the other shitload on the labels? Is it because when a band become more famous they're no cult enough anymore? I think BTBAM deserves it to be a great band. They really have developed their own sound since s/t and Alaska is the great outcome of that process. Alaska is pushing the limits of progressive metalcore without losing their roots. Almost all the influences on this album were just on TSC and s/t so that can't be the problem. All the grind parts are heavy as hell, all the prog parts are never overdone, all the ambient parts are subtle and the musicianship is absolutely fantastic. Album of the year.
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me | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
4 reviews, make it 4
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Lee | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
of this stupid band and it gets 3 reviews and a shit load of comments? I would rather lose an arm then here one of their songs from the reviews on here, which were suprisingly good.
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danny edge | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
first 4 songs are good, then from there out I always shut it off
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Doug w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
what the fuck is up with the forum?
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Mark | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Good point, Derek! I'll give you that one. Atreyu sucks the biggest nuts in the whole world, and yes, they're from the west, but we're not responsible for KsE. :) And Father, people group them in the metalcore category because that's what their first album was. Needless to say, with all the genre-switching going on since The Silent Circus, there really isn't an appropriate label for them. Perhaps that's what frustrates people about them, and maybe that's why BTBAM continue to do what they do. . . to defy labels. Of course, it doesn't please everyone's ears, but of course, if you're an artist, you wouldn't care what everyone else thinks. Though this album MIGHT not be my thing, much respect goes out. Now. . . if Glass Casket would put another album, I'd be happy. . .
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Doug w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
You guys caught me, I only listened to the album once before reviewing it. I'm sure if I give it twelve more listens I'll love it. Of course I gave the damn thing plenty of time; I've had it for weeks. I wouldn't ever have made the criticisms I did without giving the album lots of airtime.
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Derek | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
key word in that sentence was "most" of the west coast scene. No disrespect. although, in defense of my statement, the west coast did give birth to himsa and atreyu.
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Father | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I think all the reviews were fine, and covered alot of positive and negative aspects of BTBAM. The thing i dont get is the metal-core tag? I dont hear many cores? When i think metal-core i always think atreyu or something? Maybe im getting old...
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Harley w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
...what anaturaldisaster said.
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anaturaldisaster | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Everyone complaining about the lack of songwriting or emotion displayed on Alaska should make an attempt at listening to the album more than once, preferably multiple times. Not every band is immediately appealing, especially something as densely written and multifaceted as this. Have patience, this is my album of the year thus far. I really think you guys aren't giving them enough credit.
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Mark | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Ummm. . . before you rag on the west coast metal scene, may I remind you that there's Disgorge, Severed Savior, Decrepit Birth, Vehemence, etc., etc. Don't hate.
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key to nothing | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
why does everyone feel the need to rip on drew when his review was so good,it was well thought out and actually quite funny,so fuck off
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alphaenemy | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I loved The Silent Circus, even though it was pretty difficult trying to piece together the whole puzzle mentally. I'm sure this will do much the same for me as the last one did.
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Derek | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Something i have noticed is that with great talent, musicianship in particular; the more talented you are the harder it becomes to materialize your ideas. which is what i think happens with these guys. No one can deny that they have more talent in their band than most of the west coast metal scene put together. but they just cant seem to bring their big idea in to reality.
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drew | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
yeah well, at least it didn't take me 20 years to gain the skill to put something like that out.
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David | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Your review seems to be doing what you accuse the album of. Stringing together clever little phrases that you think are oh so clever and funny yet add up to something that seems incredibly forced and contrived and reeking of insincerity. Trying to offend almost every genre in the metal world, abusing musicians etc. How tired. Abominable writing and a lame review. Regards.
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drew | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
if you knew a fucking thing about music, you wouldn't be talking shit on dolly parton.
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Mark | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
The death metal on this track is some of the best I've heard all year, seriously, but it's like a getting a blow job for a couple of minutes before the girl decides she doesn't want to do it anymore. . . WHAT!??! That's how I felt listening to this song past the 3:45 mark. It's excellent as 2 different songs, but c'mon 7 minutes???? Even Opeth's highs and lows aren't this extreme.
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Harley w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Just as the title suggests, I am fucking addicted to that song. Totally the best OPETH song that OPETH never wrote and the best song on this album. \m/
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Father | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I like it, i also stole it a month before it came out (whoops), im gonna buy it, that selkies song makes it worth it for me.
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Harley w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Maybe that's true, but you have to admit that his review was funny as hell while still proving his point. That in itself is the epitome of a perfect review.
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turd | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Drew is a Label whore.. his reviews are based on the bands label status and popularity and drewfagcer knows jack shit about music in general and needs to go back to listening to his grand pa's dollie partin albums.
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Harley w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
...they say it's no so good and I say it's great... who ya gonna go with? The answer is with yourself. Give it a listen, if only the samples in the ecard below, or maybe a friend will get it and burn it for you. For the musicianship alone it's worth at least hearing. http://www.victoryrecords.com/BETWEENTHEBURIEDANDME/ECARDS/
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Speci | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
That's what I meant. You thought it was full of emotion, but the other guy thought it completely lacked it. They contradict each other.
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Jacksonlefteye | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
take your ritalin, and listen to some kayo dot...fuck this band
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Harley w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
You added me to your list of quote rants unjustly. With hold no emotion means to not hold back any emotion. I was saying that the album touches on all musical emotions in regards to metal.
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Speci | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Way too much hype around this release for me to listen to it right now. It sounds like it could go one way or the other with me. I do think that albums like this that involve spastic genre switching, and sometimes disconcerting structuring can be done well. They can, but more often then not, aren't. It takes a very keen ear for contrast and similiarity to be able to juxtapose deathcore with power metal in the same song, but when it's done well, it's amazing. I'd agree that there are people out there who will love this at a glance without really giving any thought, but there are just as many people who have built up an unflappable hatred for "unfocused" or "meandering" genre switching, who won't give this a fair shake. I'd agree with Drew that "challenging" is an overused hyped term, but so is the bullshit term "wankery" which was applied heavily by the one who hated "challenging". And I also don't buy into the whole 'lacking in sincerity' bit. I don't care how long you've been reviewing CDs, or how many times you've listened to it. You don't have some indefinable sixth sense to latch on to what the band was feeling when they composed and recorded the songs. You simply can't gauge sincerity, because sincerity can't be translated though recording equipment. It can be replicated or faked, but you can't tell. These reviews prove it, to. "Between The Buried And Me withhold no musical emotion." "The problem isn’t a lack of concept or technique but of emotion" Sincerity can only be truly translated in a live setting, and even then, you have to be pretty keen to give any factual evidence for it. Anyway, the bottom line is that I'm gonna wait to listen to this one, because at this point it's too hyped and polarized.
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Harley w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
I count four. Who's opinion doesn't matter? :)
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Ryan | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Strange how I agree with every reviewer here through three almost completely different outlooks and opinions. I do like this album alot for the "parts" that keep you coming back to it, but unfortunately there aren't enough of these parts for me to even say that this is a good collection of "songs". I understand what it is this band set out for, but like Opeth, they need to take some more time out to write better tunes and not string together some conceptual ragdoll of an album and expect praise for technical musicianship to make up for everything else. If they're as influenced by The Red Chord as they say they are as far as tech-metal is concerned, then maybe they should take a nod from them also on songmanship.
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Harley w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Yeah, helps if I post the link!!!! http://www.victoryrecords.com/BETWEENTHEBURIEDANDME/ECARDS/
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Harley w/Metalreview | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
If any of you would like to check out some samples from the album, the ned of this Ecard has the option of listening to "Selkies: The Endless Obsession" and "Alaska" in their entirety with very little sound degradation. Enjoy!
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Jacksonlefteye | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
...Drew is my hero trust me, that's exactly the same review you would've written for "The Silent Circus" as well just a very confusing and frustrating band to me
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Mark | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
LOL, FYM, from one of my favorite spoof movies of all time. . .