Album Review

Score 8.3
Written by Harley Carlson
Published on 8/17/2005
Like anyone else who has ever stumbled upon a band for the first time, I initially knew virtually nothing about this atmospheric goth outfit from the Netherlands other than the fact that guitarist Mark Jansen formerly held a position in After Forever. More recently, however, I found my eyes and ears fixed on a video for Kamelot’s “The Haunting (Somewhere In Time)”, featuring Epica front-woman Simone Simons on guest vocals. Fortunately, due to said video, I immediately began to research the band further and within a few days I had their debut offering The Phantom Agony in my hot little hand. I was and still am very impressed with the album, so when the opportunity to review their follow-up release was presented to me, I jumped right on it.... And then the confusion sets in.

At first glimpse of the track listing for We Will Take You With Us, I was puzzled to find that it was nearly identical to that of The Phantom Agony, with the exception of one differing title. Scratching my head, I began to wonder if this was perhaps a reissue of a collection of demos that predated The Phantom Agony but, as it turns out, We Will Take You With Us is actually the audio from the companion live DVD of the same name. Instantly, I start to speculate whether or not one would really need We Will Take You With Us to sit alongside The Phantom Agony in their collection, and the answer is simple – No.

While I have yet to view the DVD counterpart of We Will Take You With Us, I am confident enough to safely guarantee that you would be much better off in investing your cash into the DVD rather than this CD. Considering there is no audible audience on any of these tracks, I’m not so convinced that this was really recorded in a live setting, though. At the very least, with the DVD you have a visual representation of all the hard work (and maybe an audience?) that was put into making this show possible, not to mention the ever stunning Simone Simons. Accompanied by an eight piece string section and full choir, Epica does a magnificent job at replicating The Phantom Agony, but my sentiment remains that this is by no means essential.

Being that Epica only had a single album under their belt at the time of its unveiling, I’m left with a bit of a questionable taste in my mouth. Hopefully we don’t see the band taking on the new age Iron Maiden marketing practice of releasing a live album and/or DVD between each studio effort. Look, I love Maiden more than any other group in existence, but their habits are really becoming quite redundant.

All in all this review ends up being less of a critique of a CD and more of a warning than anything. Heed it, and buy the We Will Take You With Us DVD instead.



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Logan | posted on 8/2005 | Reply
Yes and no. Floor and her sister, Irene, both worked with him on his Star One Live On Earth project.
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Harley w/MetalReview | posted on 8/2005 | Reply
Floor Jansen of AFTER FOREVER is the one who was involved in some Arjen Lucassen's projects.
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Logan | posted on 8/2005 | Reply
Yup. She has a sister who sang in one of Arjen Lucassen's projects.
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Lee | posted on 8/2005 | Reply
If not, then I am thinking of her sister.
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Logan | posted on 8/2005 | Reply
There actually not related at all...By the way, sorry to intrude on this conversation.
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Harley w/MetalReview | posted on 8/2005 | Reply
oddly enough, I have heard two AFTER FOREVER albums and they are great, but I still think I like EPICA a tad bit more. They are almost equal though in my book... and I know you were being sarcastic. But I am dead serious about how seriously I take my research.
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Lee | posted on 8/2005 | Reply
I was being sarcastic, not everyone is a total dick like Nin... Epica earns their nickname of "Replica" though, just not really that great to me, I prob won't bother with the new album.
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Harley w/MetalReview | posted on 8/2005 | Reply
...Lee I am aware that he was the co-founder of After Forever. I said it the way I said it for the purpose of flow. Just sounded better that way to me. So please don't talk to me about homework cuz there is no other person who researches music quite as intensely as I do. I was a bit bummed as well that we were sent this disc instead of the new studio album. I would have much rather reviewed that.
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Lee | posted on 8/2005 | Reply
Didn't "hold" a positioin in After Forever, he formed it with his sister Floor Jensen who fronts the band. Lets get our freaking home work done a little better guys. I am not a big fan of Epica, they are ok, but After Forever is miles better, there new real album has been reviewed at a lot other sites already though