Album Review

Score 7.4
Written by Erik Thomas
Published on 8/13/2004
Chances are, with this highly anticipated album being out for a while now, that any pointless, verbose spewing on my behalf won’t sway your opinion of this record. More than likely, you’re in one of two camps: First-you see Miss Machine as an embarrassing, commercially reeking disgrace. Or second, you view DEP’s leap into slightly more experimental, yet accessible realms as a necessary move both for the band and for metal.

Personally, while Calculating Infinity graces my CD collection, it’s a keepsake I rarely listen to, as I admittedly prefer less complex, easily absorbed music that doesn’t strain my cerebellum. And that’s where Miss Machine differs from DEP’s seminal debut. While certainly a challenging listen, it’s not as overwhelming and choppy as Calculating Infinity, and introduces some elements and even full songs that would not be out of place on a Nine Inch Nails record, and that’s the main lure or deterrence of the record, depending on which side of the fence you sit.

Obviously the seeds of the Mike Patton Fronted EP Irony Is A Dead Scene have grown considerably as new screamer Greg Puciato entered the fray, resulting in an album that retains far more of that EP’s vocal histrionics rather than the pure Hardcore-isms of former singer Dimitri Minakakis. Puciato’s versatility fits DEP’s more adventurous take on their self named ‘math metal’ and contributes to the album's overall more accessible atmosphere.

While album opener “Panasonic Youth” deliver DEP’s trademark choppy, stuttering metal gait with Puciato doing an expected roar, there’s a tangible undercurrent throbbing under the masterful technicality that exudes a confidence delivering the subtle shift in direction that is “Sunshine the Werewolf”. This track wholeheartedly signifies DEP’s new found veneer, while inherently delivering an unpredictable math metal cyclone, but its vast climax is more Isis or Neurosis than typical staccato warbling.

However, up to this point the album still teeters on the edge of DEP’s expected growth. It’s not until “Highway Robbery” cascades out of the speakers with a stirring emphasis on quirky but unobtrusive sampling and programmed beats within DEP’s jagged output. “Van Damsel” seems to intentionally deliver an uncompromisingly deft and technical blow akin to their prior output, but only as if to deliberately pave the way for the album’s first real eye opener, “Phone Home”; with a slithering programmed aesthetic, the track sees DEP really open up their new found style and lets Puciato cross over into Trent Reznor like seething rather than typical hardcore rage. For many, it will either be the album’s low point or an unrepentant, progressive step for the band. The same can be said for the duality of “We Are the Storm” that stutters and heaves with abrasive atonality, but its midsection serves as an ambient eye of the storm. After the techno mechanical interlude of “Crutch Field Tongs”, the Mike Patton influence exudes from the Mr. Bungle circus tune, “Setting Fire to Sleeping Giants”, that stands out as one of the album’s handful of tracks that could honestly not be identified as DEP to the unknowing ear. “Unretrofied” follows the ballistic “Baby’s First Coffin”, with more NIN-like escapism and pulsing sampling.

Despite the album ending with the gargantuan lurch of “The Perfect Design”, I cant avoid the overall feeling of being under whelmed by the commercial tangents that offset the adventurous steps the band have taken. The sudden shifts, while well implemented, reek of a precursor to the next album being purely directed at mass consumption; Miss Machine is obviously the stepping stone to greener pastures. The band are still supreme musicians, and snippets of their underground roots surface pleasingly often, but they are simply bogged down by an almost pretentious shift in song writing, that while ambitiously technical and no doubt financially pertinent, simply results in an album that never redeems itself from a commercial gloss.

Miss Machine is though, if anything, a daring album that will challenge listeners to question their own musical allegiance as the progression vs. accessibility argument is no more evident than on this deep, convoluted but ultimately self conscious effort from a band whose legacy will be defined by their debut.



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Tiberious | posted on 12/2007 | Reply
Just bought this one instead of Ire Works. Why? because I only have 9.99 to spend on a cd and my intuition says this ones better. The album still has geniune DEP style but like others have said, gets a little off track from core dillinger. This is why we loved them to begin with...Calculating Infinity! The NIN crap is the most disappointing on this album, I cant stand it and skip over it every time, it really is rather disguisting. Panasonic Youth, Panasonic Youth, Panasonic Youth, this sound should be repeated over and over and over, this is reminiscent of classic dillinger with more of a clean and developed sound or in other words, more evolved. I love dillinger but sadly thier slowly slipping away. DEP music has been already defined, the mold has been made, all they have to do is keep filling it. Greg is a natural and made a sweet conversion. Screw the commercial escapades, whoever had this idea in mind was a freakin idiot to say the least. Dillinger's sound could never be commercialized because then they wouldnt be dillinger. When you release something as warm and fuzzy as Calculating Infinity, there is no turning back, this is who you are, the people have spoken. Selling your soul for capital chris gaines never works. All in all, this album still contains enough elements to be a success. Setting fire, Ok more poppy but it was GOOD, if you release more mainstream, make it good like that, not like "unretrofied" garbage. I dunno this could be the end of DEP if they have lost some members. This may be all folks
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MilkLizard | posted on 11/2007 | Reply
Miss machine was a big step in a different direction, but after listening to Ire Works, i would have to say that the step was in the right direction. Ire Works is their best work by far.
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JB | posted on 11/2007 | Reply
I would've much rather seen Mike Patton as a permanent member. My 2 fave Patton bands (Faith No More and Mr. Bungle) are no longer around. Time to get the band(s) back together, Mike!
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dickhead | posted on 11/2007 | Reply
uhmm.... How bout a review on the new album guys??
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Adrian | posted on 10/2007 | Reply
Judging by their new track "Lurch", it looks like these guys have another interesting and fun (because that's exactly what TDEP are) release right around the corner. Until November 11...
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Deniedem | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
new record is coming in september, and they got a new drummer (Gil Sharone). i dunno bout you but im pretty pumped! All the clips ive heard so far sound WAY better than CI or MM
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musicfan | posted on 7/2007 | Reply
You know, I bet the guys in DEP were grinning widely when they released this, because they knew they would piss some fans off. What some fans have to realize is that the guys in Dillinger are pranksters! They did all out hardcore, but then decided to throw everyone a curve ball by mixing that with its complete opposite; pop music! But make no mistake, save for Unretrofied, the 'poppier' sections like 'setting fire to sleeping giants' are still not quite radio friendly (the screamed vocals are perhaps too high in the mix). In fact, I actually think this album is better than CI (which while brilliant, its formula was stretched to its limit on that release...DEP said they could have written a 100 more CI type songs, so they decided to try other things...). I think this album is better not because its more 'accessible' (mind you i use that term loosely, as most of MM is still silly noise to the average listener), but because 1, it has more variety and 2, feels like a complete album rather than a collection of songs. Listen to the album and notice how it progresses throughout, and you'll see this album is 'dare i say', more calculated, more daring, and more experimental than CI. To CI's credit, I think that album has my all time favorite DEP track 'Destro's Secret.'
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Radar | posted on 8/2006 | Reply
@Drew, I agree. I think they still owe us an opus, but this is a damn fine start.
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Drew S. | posted on 8/2006 | Reply
This record IS a stepping stone, and a ballsy one. Obiviously they dont give a shit who they piss off, all the more reason to like them
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josh@orchidscurse.com | posted on 5/2006 | Reply
Whomever would call this commercial must have some serious misconceptions about what is commercially successful in today’s mainstream. Miss Machine, though a big departure from Calculating Infinity…. Is still a phenomenal album and with the exception of “Unretrofied” and “Clutch Filed Tongs” it is perfect… Also don’t forget ‘Panasonic Youth’ was their first single… This album had my Top honors of 2004 //
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anaturaldisaster | posted on 5/2006 | Reply
I tried so fucking hard to like this, but it still sucks. Calculating Infinity is one of the only flawless albums ever recorded, and this doesn't even approach matching it on any level.
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davefons | posted on 10/2005 | Reply
Well, this album amazing, and I feel like a fool for not fully embracing it when it first came out. Still Challenging music, with a more talented vocalist and sharpened writing great songs. Now that I've gotten into it,I can't stop listening to it. If I redid my 2004 list, this would be top 5.
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Ron | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
Fuck all this commercial shit about them, they are a tight band and there is so much original dillinger still in the album, this is fucking nuts to say that this material is not dillinger. The only ? is unretrofied, other than that i am satisfied and this album is addictive
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steven | posted on 9/2005 | Reply
This deserves a 666. Even though I couldn't get into them the first few times I listen to it, I came back months later, finally liking tech metal or mathcore, and found out that Dillinger can be amazing at combining their intensity with their singing.
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Speci | posted on 7/2005 | Reply
Calculating Infinity, was certainly better, but at the same time, why dillute that album's effect by making this one the same thing. And anyway, this one isn't as commercial as it's been made out to be. The only place they go a little bit too far is with "Unretrofied", but there's still lots of off kilter guitar abuse on the other songs. Good album overall, and adrian: I couldn't stop listening to Setting Fire to Sleeping Giants either, when I first got this album.
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adrian | posted on 6/2005 | Reply
setting fire to sleeping giants is an addiction. nuff said.
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Death | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
I used to HATE the vocalist, but now i love the dude. I wrote a fun reveiw on that cd in Minion Opinion, i hope it gets through, but watch these people that hate hardcore totally bash me and my reveiw and converge. Grr.
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Jim Fear | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
I don't really like Jane Doe.Not sure why really.Just doesn't click with me.And i don't like the vocalist.
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Death | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
I like the new album. If you guys like old dillinger, and arent afraid of really high screaming, then you should check out "Converge - Jane Doe". You'd like it. In fact, buy everything by Converge, although they might fall into the "hardcore" category, i have no idea what the difference is between hardcore and metal, can anyone tell me?
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roar | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
Well, No matter how much less technical this album is from calculating infinity is, the fact remains that they at least play in standard tuning, which is more than i can say for most bands out there these days, for that i applaud them, albumwise, i prefer calculating infinity, but this one is good.
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jake | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
I love the new album. Its so complex, and easy to swallow at the same time. To agree with an earlier comment about 'close-mindedness' , let me pan back to an entry by "tough bitch" "singing is gay, parts that sound like everyting else youve done is gay, NIN is gay, this is new art dillinger with power cords and GOD AWFUL vocals is the lamest thing that has EVER ( YES EVER MOTHER FUCKERS) HAPPEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Metal used to be all about stickin' it to the man, but these days a lot of metal fans have made metal into some social club, where only "real" metal is good and everything else is "gay". Thats right, a social club. Youve become musical biggots. id like to see some of these metal fans drop the pretentiousness and go back to their roots.
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alphaenemy | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
Less manic, but better content throughout. Calculating Infinity became such a mental workout that it was boring. The new singer is a Patton clone, but it's kind of what they needed. A full album's worth of hardcore screams with tech-math riffs leads to almost the basis for pure annoyance, and never good music.
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Little Jimmy | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
I'm incredibly open-minded, but this band is still shit.
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pernicious crimmiurge | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
I believe that this album is RELATIVELY more accessible than previous DEP releases, but to say that it is a "commercial" release is just a bit of a stretch. Anyway, listened to Miss Machine several times now, and it has started to sink in. Another fine release from the most promising musicians (in my humble opinion) around.
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colin | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
I usually hate hardcore but i really liked this album. I find that people who dont like a band because they sing are just closed minded. And i also think dillinger shouldnt be critisized for going a little commercial because before this record, they were gonna go broke and not be able to be a band anymore. And that would be a sin. If you dont like this album, just listen to calculating infinity, itll make ya feel better. And oh yeah, i wish some of you would grow up.
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james | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
Love this record. It took me a long time to "get" Calculating Infinity because it was so damn insane (of course thats what makes it so outstanding) and am glad they have evolved enough were they can still make excellent music thats challenging but doesnt require a masters degree and high tolerance for pain. www.fullmetaljoker.cjb.net
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mike | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
Everyone seems to think this is a good release if you take into account that it is a commercialized Dillinger. This cd might be a tad more accessible than Calculating Infinity, but i think pretty much anything is...right. Jesus, there is like 2 songs on this that are a little experimental for Dillinger, but they still aren't commercial enough for the radio or most of the public. I think the songwriting is way better on this cd than the rest of them. You don't have to change time a thousand times in a song to be the real deal.
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Goatboy | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
Greg Puciato's vocals do stray a little bit too far into disturbingly focused & obsessive Patton worship, but he pulls it off fairly well, & he does have his own style mixed in with all the Patton and Reznor influences. sure they are no longer the amazingly complex & unique force that they once were but the part of me that isnt disappointed, loves the experimental zaniness & catchiness of this album. i can understand why many fans will hate it though.
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DAVE FONZ | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
i AM LOOKING FOR AN ULTRA ABZORBANE DOOSH BAG TO KLEEN OUT MY UNMENTIONUBLES, ANY SUGESTIONS ???????? ???? ?? / ?
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Blaster | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
The great times of the self titled 1997 MCD are gone. "Miss machine" is ficking crap!
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Matt w/MetalReview | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
FATAL ERROR: Believe it or not, we have readers who frequent this website who like "hardcore". It's impossible to "please" everyone... regardless though, we pretty much review everything that comes in the door. Cheers!
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FATAL ERROR | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
the question that i always keep asking is "if it is a hardcore band, so why the review is here in a metal site" ?????
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Asesino | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
for me it's the best thing dillinger ever done ( i'm not counting the last ep ) . it's a great record , the new singer try's to give the patton trademark to the dillinger music and it works very well . . . but . . . The new Mastodon rules
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tough bitch | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
singing is gay, parts that sound like everyting else youve done is gay, NIN is gay, this is new art dillinger with power cords and GOD AWFUL vocals is the lamest thing that has EVER ( YES EVER MOTHER FUCKERS) HAPPEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Schism | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
Definitely a highlight of the year for me, I prefer DEP of 2004 to anything they have previously done :)
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TheElderlyAbuser | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
XBENX YOU HARDCORE TEENAGE ANGST FUCK, GO ON FERRET OR TOOTH AND NAIL RECORDS POSTS AND CRY ABOUT HOW GIRLS DONT LIKE YOU WITH YOUR SASSY GIRL JEANS THERE
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Lee | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
Is that how you say "Pathetic" with a gay lisp?
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xBenx | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
DEP were brave on this and thankfully it paid, I never thought they would ever integrate singing, melody and structure into their music. It's always good when a band surpirses you in a good way and doesn't do an 18 Visions (god why??).
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Chris Sessions | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
Just pathedic. Dude, that's blows.
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i guy that likes music | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
This is pathedic, i laugh at everything about this piece of shit they call miss machine Dillinger grow the fuck up and stop trying to be NIN faggots
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Eminor  | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
I like this one. Its a little hard to get into, but I like it more w/ each listen. Still partial to Irony is a Dead Scene, though.
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Slash | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
You are forgetting the 3rd camp. Not caring because we think DEP is fucking gay.
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jon | posted on 8/2004 | Reply
great fucking album??? commercial? i think not.